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Vitali
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Posted - 11/02/2017 :  00:16:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Looks like Mispila. But with such antennae!?
North Luzon.
4.2 mm.

Edited by - Xavier on 11/02/2017 09:49:44

Xaurus
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Posted - 11/02/2017 :  00:28:52  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
this nice sps belongs probably to the genus Ebaeides Thomson, 1864 (Apomecynini) but in such similar genera there is a big confusion.
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Vitali
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Posted - 11/02/2017 :  09:21:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you. You are obviously right.
Mesotibia seemed to me strongly bent, but this can be a furrow. In that case this is not Pteropliini.
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Xavier
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Posted - 11/02/2017 :  09:48:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Comparing to holotype pictures on Smithsonian website, it is sure an Ebaeides sp.
8 species in Philippines, but the probleme is that 4 or 5 species are quite similar on picture... so, you have to read one by one descriptions.

Edited by - Xavier on 11/02/2017 09:50:17
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Xaurus
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  00:44:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
similar creatures are described also in Athylia or Enispia, in most cases to read descriptions for such deficile species is less successfull
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Xavier
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  08:19:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xaurus

similar creatures are described also in Athylia or Enispia, in most cases to read descriptions for such deficile species is less successfull



so, no way.
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Vitali
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  13:55:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I agree. Fisher (1925) described 4 similar species from 4 different islands (E. pilosicornis, E. hirsuta, E. basalis and E. albopicta) each from 1 specimen, male or female. The descriptions are given in a copy-paste mode and I really cannot see the difference except lighter colour in E. pilosicornis, which may refer to a somewhat immature specimen.

My 5th specimen comes from a 5th island, and it is almost impossible to make a decision on its name, considering that also Fisher was in doubt about his descriptions himself. This is what he has written about E. hirsuta:


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Xavier
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Posted - 12/02/2017 :  14:37:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Well, may be I am not so stupid.
But the problem remains the same: no way on picture. May be it is possible to loan holotypes specimens, to check how many synonyms have been described by Fisher ?
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