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Vitali
Member Rosalia
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Posted - 11/02/2017 : 00:16:13
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Looks like Mispila. But with such antennae!? North Luzon. 4.2 mm. |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 11/02/2017 : 00:28:52
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this nice sps belongs probably to the genus Ebaeides Thomson, 1864 (Apomecynini) but in such similar genera there is a big confusion. |
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Vitali
Member Rosalia
Estonia
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Posted - 11/02/2017 : 09:21:13
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Thank you. You are obviously right. Mesotibia seemed to me strongly bent, but this can be a furrow. In that case this is not Pteropliini. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 11/02/2017 : 09:48:53
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Comparing to holotype pictures on Smithsonian website, it is sure an Ebaeides sp. 8 species in Philippines, but the probleme is that 4 or 5 species are quite similar on picture... so, you have to read one by one descriptions. |
Edited by - Xavier on 11/02/2017 09:50:17 |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 12/02/2017 : 00:44:59
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similar creatures are described also in Athylia or Enispia, in most cases to read descriptions for such deficile species is less successfull |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 12/02/2017 : 08:19:33
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quote: Originally posted by Xaurus
similar creatures are described also in Athylia or Enispia, in most cases to read descriptions for such deficile species is less successfull
so, no way. |
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Vitali
Member Rosalia
Estonia
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Posted - 12/02/2017 : 13:55:40
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I agree. Fisher (1925) described 4 similar species from 4 different islands (E. pilosicornis, E. hirsuta, E. basalis and E. albopicta) each from 1 specimen, male or female. The descriptions are given in a copy-paste mode and I really cannot see the difference except lighter colour in E. pilosicornis, which may refer to a somewhat immature specimen.
My 5th specimen comes from a 5th island, and it is almost impossible to make a decision on its name, considering that also Fisher was in doubt about his descriptions himself. This is what he has written about E. hirsuta:
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 12/02/2017 : 14:37:16
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Well, may be I am not so stupid. But the problem remains the same: no way on picture. May be it is possible to loan holotypes specimens, to check how many synonyms have been described by Fisher ? |
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