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Xavier
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Posted - 08/09/2012 :  11:20:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


10 mm, Haifa, Israel.
Peut-être Phytoecia (Helladia) ferrugata Ganglbauer, 1884 ?
Quel nom de genre faut-il adopter ? Phytoecia ou Helladia ?
Merci de me donner votre avis.

znort
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China
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Posted - 08/09/2012 :  12:08:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Helladia est considérée comme un sous genre de Phytoecia tout comme les Musaria et Neomusaria.
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Xavier
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Posted - 08/09/2012 :  12:29:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

la même de côté...
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/09/2012 :  18:04:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Tout à fait: le nom accepté par la communauté scientifique est Phytoecia (Helladia) ferrugata Ganglbauer, 1884, comme tu as correctement écrit.
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Xavier
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Posted - 13/09/2012 :  19:09:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci Francesco !
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znort
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Posted - 14/09/2012 :  00:28:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
This specimen is similar to ferrugata but I'm not sure about your determination.
See this photo
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Francesco
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Posted - 14/09/2012 :  09:19:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
At the first sight, it seems to be a female.
Concerning the leg colour, Breuning gives all black except the protibiae and the apical half of the profemora.
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znort
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Posted - 14/09/2012 :  23:55:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
thank you for the additional information Francesco....It's probably a variable specie.
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