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Gerard
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France
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Posted - 10/11/2012 :  11:55:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


MALAISIE, Cameron, taille 18 mm
J'ai regardé dans le Breuning, sans rien trouver.
Pas facile pour ces bêtes magnifiques.

Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2016 15:34:55

Andre
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Germany
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Posted - 10/11/2012 :  13:20:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Hallo Gerard. this spec. is determined by A. Weigel as Cylindrepomus aureolineatus Dillon & Dillon, 1947, 18 mm and from Trus Madi.
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Gerard
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France
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Posted - 10/11/2012 :  13:24:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci beaucoup, une nouvelle bête pour le net.
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Beckey
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Japan
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Posted - 03/02/2017 :  14:11:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think Gerard's one is Cylindrepomus spinosus Hüdepohl 1990.

Elytral apex has longer teeth in C. aureolineatus.
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dryobius
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Posted - 03/02/2017 :  16:33:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Females have an acuminate elytral apex. Males do not.
Here is a male C. aureolineatus from Sabah (Borneo).
I have seen numerous specimens of both sexes.
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Beckey
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Japan
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Posted - 03/02/2017 :  20:34:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Dan. I didn't think about sexual dimorphism.

Do you think these species are synonym?
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  14:36:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
For Titan base both species are valid and not synonym.
C. aureolineatus from Sarawak / Borneo and C. spinosus from Thailand.

Claude
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  16:01:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I just starting to understand something (may be I am wrong):

- Holotype of Cylindrepomus spinosus Hüdepohl, 1990 has been "collected" in "south Thailand" by Sabine Steinke. (see here)

- Other specimens come from ... Borneo like on this page

What could be the conclusion??

Edited by - Xavier on 04/02/2017 16:02:33
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  17:41:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Décidément on en sort pas ! je vais finir par croire que la Thailande et Borneo étaient côte-à-côte il y a peu de temps !

Claude
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Pierre-Olivier Maquart
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  18:32:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
C'est la magie de la tectonique des plaques

Ce post sur Saraburi est décidément passionnant
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  18:49:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Manifestement, le post sur Saraburi ne plait pas à tout le monde.
Cependant, je ne suis pas du tout décidé à me laisser impressionner ou égarer par des approximations vaseuses. C'est même l'inverse ; l'adversité est...motivante

Edited by - Xavier on 04/02/2017 18:50:05
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dryobius
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USA
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Posted - 04/02/2017 :  23:49:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
C. spinosus seems likely to be a synonym of C. aureolineatus. It is too soon to say with absolute proof.

Yokoi and I are doing another paper on Dorcaschematini planned to be published in 2018. There are some remaining new species, new subspecies, and if C. spinosus is a synonym, then we will publish it as such. Yokoi has examined nearly all of the holotypes of this tribe.

The discussion on Sariburi has certainly explained some curious patterns of distribution.
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Beckey
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Japan
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Posted - 05/02/2017 :  00:24:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Now I read the topic "Saraburi, XI.1988, Thailande".

Attached specimen was collected in Selangor by myself.

Inspite of Gerard's one is labeled "Cameron Highlands", this species distribute in Peninsular Malaysia at least.


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Edited by - Beckey on 05/02/2017 12:31:12
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Gerard
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France
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Posted - 05/02/2017 :  08:16:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Indonésie, Ile de Bornéo, Kalimantan, Mt Bawang,

Je rajoute ce male de Bornéo.
Les femelle sont plus "rare".
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