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Gerard
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Posted - 10/11/2012 : 11:55:58
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MALAISIE, Cameron, taille 18 mm J'ai regardé dans le Breuning, sans rien trouver. Pas facile pour ces bêtes magnifiques. |
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Andre
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Posted - 10/11/2012 : 13:20:32
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Hallo Gerard. this spec. is determined by A. Weigel as Cylindrepomus aureolineatus Dillon & Dillon, 1947, 18 mm and from Trus Madi. |
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Gerard
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Posted - 10/11/2012 : 13:24:36
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Merci beaucoup, une nouvelle bête pour le net. |
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Beckey
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Posted - 03/02/2017 : 14:11:35
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I think Gerard's one is Cylindrepomus spinosus Hüdepohl 1990.
Elytral apex has longer teeth in C. aureolineatus. |
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dryobius
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Posted - 03/02/2017 : 16:33:07
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Females have an acuminate elytral apex. Males do not. Here is a male C. aureolineatus from Sabah (Borneo). I have seen numerous specimens of both sexes. |
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Beckey
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Posted - 03/02/2017 : 20:34:45
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Thank you Dan. I didn't think about sexual dimorphism.
Do you think these species are synonym? |
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 14:36:54
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For Titan base both species are valid and not synonym. C. aureolineatus from Sarawak / Borneo and C. spinosus from Thailand. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 16:01:02
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I just starting to understand something (may be I am wrong):
- Holotype of Cylindrepomus spinosus Hüdepohl, 1990 has been "collected" in "south Thailand" by Sabine Steinke. (see here)
- Other specimens come from ... Borneo like on this page
What could be the conclusion?? |
Edited by - Xavier on 04/02/2017 16:02:33 |
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Capitaine
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 17:41:49
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Décidément on en sort pas ! je vais finir par croire que la Thailande et Borneo étaient côte-à-côte il y a peu de temps !![](images/icon_smile_big.gif) |
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Pierre-Olivier Maquart
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 18:32:28
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C'est la magie de la tectonique des plaques ![](images/icon_smile_big.gif)
Ce post sur Saraburi est décidément passionnant ![](images/icon_smile.gif) |
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Xavier
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 18:49:28
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Manifestement, le post sur Saraburi ne plait pas à tout le monde. Cependant, je ne suis pas du tout décidé à me laisser impressionner ou égarer par des approximations vaseuses. C'est même l'inverse ; l'adversité est...motivante ![](images/icon_smile_wink.gif) |
Edited by - Xavier on 04/02/2017 18:50:05 |
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dryobius
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 23:49:31
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C. spinosus seems likely to be a synonym of C. aureolineatus. It is too soon to say with absolute proof.
Yokoi and I are doing another paper on Dorcaschematini planned to be published in 2018. There are some remaining new species, new subspecies, and if C. spinosus is a synonym, then we will publish it as such. Yokoi has examined nearly all of the holotypes of this tribe.
The discussion on Sariburi has certainly explained some curious patterns of distribution. |
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Beckey
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Posted - 05/02/2017 : 00:24:32
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Now I read the topic "Saraburi, XI.1988, Thailande".
Attached specimen was collected in Selangor by myself.
Inspite of Gerard's one is labeled "Cameron Highlands", this species distribute in Peninsular Malaysia at least.
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Edited by - Beckey on 05/02/2017 12:31:12 |
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Gerard
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Posted - 05/02/2017 : 08:16:32
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Indonésie, Ile de Bornéo, Kalimantan, Mt Bawang,
Je rajoute ce male de Bornéo. Les femelle sont plus "rare". |
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