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Robert
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Posted - 29/01/2013 :  08:44:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Semble être l'espèce du post de Xavier, cette fois-ci de Bornéo.
Je relance donc ce topic.

Robert V.

Edited by - Xavier on 28/01/2016 15:36:23

dryobius
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Posted - 29/01/2013 :  15:03:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Sthenias franciscanus Thomson.

The only Sthenias that I have seen from Borneo, sometimes a little variable.
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Robert
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Posted - 29/01/2013 :  17:58:42  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok, thanks!

Robert V.
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Xavier
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Posted - 02/02/2013 :  12:31:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
S.franciscanus or S.franciscana ?
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dryobius
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Posted - 02/02/2013 :  14:40:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
The Palaearctic catalog uses "franciscanus". Tavakilian web site has "franciscana".

Thomson used "franciscana" when he described it.

Is Sthenias masculine, feminine or neutral?
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Francesco
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Posted - 02/02/2013 :  19:01:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Thomson's original description is irrelevant since the scientific names should follow the Latin or Greek grammar.
In case of doubts, it is better to consult Gemminger & Harold, who clarified the origin and the gender of all genera known at that time.

This case is however questionable.
According to Gemminger & Harold, Sthenias derives from Sthenios, whose gender is masculine.
Nonetheless, Sthenias is not Sthenios, but possibly a Castelnau's misspelling.
Consequently, it is also possible to sustain that Sthenias is a completely invented word (neologism). In this case, the gender of a neologism is the gender the author gave.
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Francesco
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Posted - 02/01/2014 :  19:56:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Coming back to this case, Castelnau's original description of Sthenias (here) included only S. grisator.
Thus, the genus is undoubtedly masculine.
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Francesco
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Posted - 18/05/2020 :  10:41:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Coming back to this case, the name quoted by Laporte de Castelnau is "Sthenias Dejean".
This name belongs actually to Dejean (1835: 344), who quoted two valid species, currently classified as Sthenias.
Both quoted species (grisator F. and cylindrator F.) are undoubtedly masculine.
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