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Les
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Posted - 05/04/2013 :  07:32:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Nakhon Si Thammarat, Thailand

Another uncooperative model. One photo taken and it flew higher up.
Again, I hope sufficient to enable id.

Thanks.

Les
www.samuibutterflies.com/galleries/coleopteracerambycidae

Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2016 12:27:09

Francesco
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Posted - 05/04/2013 :  12:17:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Les
Another uncooperative model. One photo taken and it flew higher up.
Again, I hope sufficient to enable id.



Eh eh! By using a net all become cooperative.

It should be Glenea funerula or G. manto, but I have to check my keys.
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Les
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Thailand
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Posted - 06/04/2013 :  02:18:17  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
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Eh eh! By using a net all become cooperative.





National Park, no nets allowed!
Actually, it was very frustrating, as I saw a butterfly there that has never been found in Thailand before, only in Malaysia, but I have no proof!
It was flying so I could not get an acceptable photo.

I have looked at the picture in your photo gallery of G. funerula, and the markings on my specimen seem larger, but that may just be the ssp. I look forward to your key research results.

Les
www.samuibutterflies.com/galleries/coleopteracerambycidae

Edited by - Les on 06/04/2013 02:22:26
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Francesco
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Posted - 06/04/2013 :  09:01:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
In fact it is Glenea manto Pascoe, 1866 (second hypothesis).
Here author's original drawing (a female):


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The species is new for Thailand... you should do somethings for that Park: in this way, it is not possible to record this species.
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Les
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Posted - 07/04/2013 :  01:46:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Francesco

In fact it is Glenea manto Pascoe, 1866 (second hypothesis).

The species is new for Thailand... you should do somethings for that Park: in this way, it is not possible to record this species.



Thank you for the confirmation which is a very nice, but at the same time frustrating, surprise.
I would love to do further work there, but I would need a collecting permit, which is very nearly impossible for an amateur foreigner in Thailand.

Les
www.samuibutterflies.com/galleries/coleopteracerambycidae
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Francesco
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Posted - 07/04/2013 :  10:12:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it is possible to publish a faunistic note basing on these photos; in all cases they are a documentation.
In addition, you can insert a picture of a prepared specimen of another locality (I can send it, if you need).
Maybe, it could be the way to obtain a permit in future times.
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Les
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Thailand
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Posted - 11/04/2013 :  05:02:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you for your encouragment. I will start working on a short note for publication. Not sure where would be best. I would be most grateful if you could email me a set photo (email in my profile).

It may be some time as I currently have 4 other papers in preparation on other insect orders!

Les
www.samuibutterflies.com/galleries/coleopteracerambycidae
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Les
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Thailand
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Posted - 07/05/2013 :  02:26:48  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Francesco was kind enough to forward a photo of a set specimen of G. manto. This allowed me to closely examine the two, and a couple of anomolies were seen. After reference back to Francesco, it now appears that the species is, indeed Glenea funerula funerula, which, still, is new to Thailand.

I would ask if anyone has a photo of a set specimen of this subspecies, not G. funerula javana, for inclusion in the paper I am writing, with due recognition, of course.

Les
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