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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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 Posted - 25/05/2013 : 12:17:52
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N - Vietnam, Cao Bang Prov.,
Female, 11 mm. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
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Posted - 29/05/2013 : 07:20:54
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Das gehört zu Synixais (Pteropliini), wahrscheinlich eine neue Art.
Kuck mal die verstecke Abteilung des Forums. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 21/12/2013 : 17:12:22
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| By looking to the picture of the type (I will add it later), it's probably Sesiosa laosensis Breuning, 1968 |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 24/12/2013 : 01:32:42
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| Das Vieh sieht wirklich der Sesiosa laosensis sehr ähnlich, und wird es wohl auch sein, nur die mittlere Binde ist eben anders. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12068 Posts |
Posted - 24/12/2013 : 10:37:07
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| Das Vieh ? What does it mean ? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 24/12/2013 : 12:53:43
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Right, I understand now.
I have seen the different medial band, but I feel that it's a possible variation. The habitus, the antennal structure is quite the same . But that's only my feeling. |
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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 24/12/2013 : 13:16:08
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hmmmmm.....I have 1 Male and 1 Female from Pia Oak, with more or less the same toment.
Hallo Xaurus.....have you also spec. from this place? |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 25/12/2013 : 23:55:44
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| I have 2 spms (male ,female) from this origin, in female the black transverse band is broken in the middle, so I think this is a variable feature, and therefore the same sps nearly sure. |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 12:41:48
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Now its clear, our spms from N-Vietnam are: Synixais strandi Breuning, 1940 (= S. notaticollis Breuning, 1964), the black band is quite variable ..
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 05/03/2014 : 16:07:38
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Well, for me it's unclear : I have the types pictures of both species, and I don't see any difference between Sesiolsa laosensis and Synixais notaticollis ! Exactly the same pattern, pubescence, etc. What must be seen ?
...or could it be also synonyms ??? |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 18:02:57
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Hallo Xavier,
the situation is really quite confused: the real Sesiosa laosensis is pictured at the Fig. 23c in the Laos book, and the Fig. 22d is Synixais strandi - the type spm in the Bishop Museum contains the wrong label, and therefore Ohbayashi's pictures is wrong titeled as Sesiosa laosensis.
S. strandi and notaticollis are the same! |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 06/03/2014 : 19:17:00
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We had a similar discussion here. What do you think my species is ?
Here the 2 pictures from Laos fauna (Gressitt). * Note that the picture 23c for "S. strandi" doesn't exist in this book .
22d "Sesiosa laosensis"
23b "Synixai notaticollis "
What is the main difference between this 2 species ?
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 07/03/2014 : 00:09:00
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Ok, the pict. 23c is Sesiosa laosensis (wrong label) and both Synixais strandi and S. notaticollis are synonym, I have seen a bigger series in the coll. of CH, and your spms Xavier should belong to S. strandi too.
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 07/03/2014 : 09:07:29
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Dear xaurus,
- I know that the 23c picture is a wrong label in Laos Fauna (and it's not our probleme here), but tell me please the difference between Sesiosa laosensis and Synixais strandi : I don't see it
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 08/03/2014 : 13:10:20
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Dear Xavier,
the fig 23c in the book is the true Sesiosa laosensis a quite different genus to Synixais, the problem there is no type picture from Sesiosa laosensis available, probably in the Bishop Museum the HT is'nt labeled, and his type label is put under a spm of Synixais notaticollis (=strand). Is a bit confused, I hope you can understand.
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 08/03/2014 : 17:11:36
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Dear Xaurus,
I think is ok now  .
Thank you |
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Vietnam: Synixais strandi
