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Vitali
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Posted - 12/01/2014 :  16:59:17  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Regarding the sculpture of the pronotum and the apex of the scape, I suggest this beetle as a candidate for Aphrodisium (s. str.) gibbicolle var. rubrofemoralis.

In such case, the beetle discussed here is a different species, which does not belong to Aphrodisium but is probably Schwarzerium provostii (Fairmaire, 1887), as suggested by Xavier.

A beetle with red femora was described by Gressitt as Aphrodisium (s. str.) rufofemoratus Gressitt & Rondon 1970. The description corresponds to my beetle except for some features of the pronotum.
If A. rufofemoratus was synonymized to Aphrodisium (s. str.) gibbicolle var. rubrofemoralis, could anyone explain me please how the name rufofemoratus could transfer to rubrofemoralis. To me this looks like a complete mess. Besides, Pic should be the author of Chelidonium gibbicolle var. rubrofemoralis Pic, 1932.

Edited by - Gerard on 30/01/2016 21:19:33

Xavier
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Posted - 12/01/2014 :  18:02:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I agree with Aphrodisium gibbicole, because of the darker bands of elytra and the pronotal scupture. I have a specimen from Laos with partly red profemora, so it goes in your way -> var. rubrofemoralis a true one ?
For Titan database, Aphrodisium rufofemoratum Gressitt & Rondon, 1970 still exist and it's not a synonyme of the previous species...

I never thought my specimen was an Aphrodisium, your opinion confirms mine ... Thanks

Edited by - Xavier on 12/01/2014 18:07:21
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 12/01/2014 :  18:23:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
By the way, I have a color picture of the type of Aphrodisium rufofemoratum Gressitt & Rondon, 1970 and it's not your species : the pronotum is totally different and hind femora are largely red.
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Vitali
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Posted - 12/01/2014 :  18:43:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Xavier. If possible, please send the photo of A. rufofemoratum to my private mail. Yes, I also suspected that my beetle is not this species because the description of pronotum was somewhat different. Besides, my beetle is 36 mm, while the size of A. rufofemoratum was given 23-30 mm.

By the way, Gressitt mentions paratypes of A. rufofemoratum with black hind femora.

Finally, I forgot to mention that my beetle comes from China. Let us regard it Aphrodisium (s. str.) gibbicolle.
If you, Francesco, agree, would you please change the title of the topic?
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Xavier
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Posted - 12/01/2014 :  19:28:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It's done. I send you this picture.
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Xavier
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Posted - 30/05/2014 :  23:35:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have got this ssp. from Laos, but what is its correct name ? Aphrodisium gibbicolle rubrofemoralis (Pic, 1932) ?

Edited by - Xavier on 30/05/2014 23:38:25
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Francesco
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Posted - 07/02/2019 :  18:59:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
According to Bentanachs & Jiroux (2019), Chelidonium gibbicolle var. rubrofemoralis Pic, 1932 = Schwarzerium provostii (Fairmaire, 1887)
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Joan
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Posted - 09/02/2019 :  13:46:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Il n'est pas, évidemment, Sch. provosti.
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Vitali
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Estonia
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Posted - 09/02/2019 :  14:57:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, pronotum is very different.
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Andre
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Posted - 09/02/2019 :  18:44:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Im Moment halte ich diese Art für Aphrodisium thibetanum Pic, 1925.
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