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Max
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Posted - 22/01/2014 :  16:56:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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I'm received recently very interesting material from N Vietnam.. Many of beetles is eximious

Nupserha, a think. Male, 13mm, Vietnam, Sa Pa.
Underside entirely black (even the head - gula and mandibles are black).

Edited by - Xavier on 24/01/2014 21:51:16

Max
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Posted - 22/01/2014 :  19:28:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
A thought an idea has struck me - Nupserha ventralis Gahan, 1894
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Xavier
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Posted - 22/01/2014 :  19:29:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have a similar specimen to yours in collection from north Laos that I named Nupserha ventralis Gahan, 1894 because of this picture. But, is it really the same species ?
You have to check also the original description by Gahan.

Edited by - Xavier on 22/01/2014 19:42:04
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Xavier
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Posted - 22/01/2014 :  19:43:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

11 mm, Hua Phan, north-east Laos
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Francesco
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Posted - 24/01/2014 :  19:46:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think it is rather Nupserha taliana (Pic, 1916) in both cases.
N. ventralis is a species from Myanmar and Assam, which also shows red profemurs.

However, very nice pictures; thanks!
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Max
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Posted - 24/01/2014 :  20:19:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
ok. Thank You, Francesco! A`m broaden my outlook by this only
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Xavier
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Posted - 24/01/2014 :  20:31:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks Francesco. Do you think that EOL determination is wrong ?
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Francesco
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Posted - 24/01/2014 :  21:40:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
If it comes from China, it is N. taliana as well.
I seem to understand that N. taliana is a species external to Himalaya, being present in Tibet, Yunnan, Vietnam and Laos, while N. ventralis is internal, being present in Assam and Myanmar...
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Xavier
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Posted - 24/01/2014 :  21:47:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok ; Here the original PIC's description :
Oberea (i) taliana n. sp.
Modice elongatus, parum nitidus, supra testaceus, infra, antennis pedibusque pro parte nigris.

Modérément allongé, peu brillant, dessus testacé, dessous avec les antennes et partie des pattes noirs. Téte grosse, de la largeur, ou plus large, que le prothorax, celui-ci court et large, antennes un peu plus longues que le corps ; élytres un peu plus larges que le prothorax, pas très longs, atténués à l'extrémité, échancrés au sommet, à rangées de points assez forts ; dessous foncé avec le sommet parfois roux ; pattes d'ordinaire foncées avec les antérieures en partie testacées. Long. 9-10 mill. Chine MLe : Tali.
Voisin de O. marginella Bâtes, mais téte testacée et élytres n'ayant pas de bande foncée latérale.
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