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Sergi
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Posted - 31/05/2014 :  12:46:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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From China, Guangxi.
Size: 11 mm

Edited by - Xavier on 02/06/2014 21:58:48

nalslan
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Posted - 31/05/2014 :  15:20:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus ?

Edited by - Xavier on 02/06/2014 21:59:13
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Xavier
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Posted - 31/05/2014 :  15:58:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, I agree : we can see the lateral and separated middle spot; Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus (Chevrolat, 1863)

Edited by - Xavier on 31/05/2014 15:59:05
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Sergi
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  14:38:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


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These three specimens of Chlorophorus are very similar to Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus but in the labels the specific name are Chrolophorus diadema. that's right???

From China, Wanyuan. Size 15mm aprox.

Edited by - Sergi on 02/06/2014 14:39:42
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Xavier
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  18:30:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Chlorophorus diadema (Motschulsky, 1854) , which I have not in collection, seems to have a different pattern like here

My ID of Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus (Chevrolat, 1863) is made with Hua's book,(2009), n°360 page 31 with a very short description , and I have never seen the type specimen. Because it fits with this picture, I keep this name for my exemplars from north Laos, but may be I 'm wrong.
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Sergi
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  18:35:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Xavier! Think you that these three specimens are Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus also????
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Xavier
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  18:55:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes : Here the picture from Hua's book (Type material ??) . I don't see any difference (second black mark on lateral margin close to the second spot line), and it fits with the locality (= China, Wanyuan)
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nalslan
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  21:03:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
That is a good question. I don't know the difference. I made my guess based on comparing your photo to Hua's book (that was the reason I put a question mark after my guess though it was displayed as! :)).

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These three specimens of Chlorophorus are very similar to Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus but in the labels the specific name are Chrolophorus diadema. that's right???

From China, Wanyuan. Size 15mm aprox.


Edited by - nalslan on 02/06/2014 21:08:38
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nalslan
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China
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  21:10:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have tens of these similar pattern Chlorophorus individuals. It is a headache to ID them.

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Chlorophorus diadema (Motschulsky, 1854) , which I have not in collection, seems to have a different pattern like here

My ID of Chlorophorus tredecimmaculatus (Chevrolat, 1863) is made with Hua's book,(2009), n°360 page 31 with a very short description , and I have never seen the type specimen. Because it fits with this picture, I keep this name for my exemplars from north Laos, but may be I 'm wrong.

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Xavier
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Posted - 02/06/2014 :  21:58:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I agree with you nalslan and we keep a " ? " for this headache ID
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Sergi
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Posted - 03/06/2014 :  18:46:00  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok, I thought that he determined without doubt.
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