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Max
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Posted - 22/06/2014 :  23:50:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Some Pyrestes from Sa Pa region, comparatively small (11 mm), with deep buried scutellum and with carina-like suture in the middle.

Edited by - Xavier on 25/06/2014 13:16:19

Sergi
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Posted - 23/06/2014 :  09:22:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Maybe Pyrestes festus
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Xavier
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Posted - 23/06/2014 :  20:07:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Is it the same species here ?
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Sergi
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Posted - 24/06/2014 :  09:54:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Xavier!! Yes, I think that your picture is the same species. This black blur colour on the elytra sutura is a great feature for determine the species, Pyrestes festus Holzschuh, 1998

Edited by - Xavier on 24/06/2014 13:21:22
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Xavier
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Posted - 24/06/2014 :  13:15:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks a lot , Sergi
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Max
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Posted - 24/06/2014 :  17:21:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks, friends, for your help.
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horshehden
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Posted - 25/06/2014 :  13:02:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Sorry, but you should start again. This is not P. festus. Besides many other features, antennae are black in P. festus.
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Xavier
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Posted - 25/06/2014 :  13:15:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

Thanks Tom
...but, could you help us ?

Edited by - Xavier on 25/06/2014 13:47:22
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Sergi
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Posted - 25/06/2014 :  13:47:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi again, Pyrestes festus have antennae black and red!!!! Look the work Beschreibung von 68 neuen Bockkafern aus Asien, Uberwiegend aus China und zur Synonymie einiger Arten. Holzchuh, 1998. Here you can see a female of Pyrestes festus (the picture are in white and black), but you can apreciate the two colors, black and red, of the antennae. Also, the black blur in the suture of elytra is other point of determination, not seen with this patern in other species of Pyrestes.
This is my point of view.
Reviews are accepted!!!
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Xavier
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Posted - 25/06/2014 :  14:15:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
not to mix different species, I add to my post original picture and description of Pyrestes festus Holzschuh 1998
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horshehden
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Posted - 25/06/2014 :  21:59:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
What about this one?


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Sergi
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Posted - 26/06/2014 :  16:03:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
From what country??
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horshehden
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Posted - 26/06/2014 :  18:54:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yunnan, just shortly north from the type locality of P. festus.
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Sergi
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Posted - 26/06/2014 :  20:05:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok, it's curious that this specimen is very similar to the other one, less the coloration of antennae. Maybe a color variant for the same species??? a mystery!!!

Edited by - Sergi on 26/06/2014 20:05:56
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Gerard
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Posted - 26/06/2014 :  20:05:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello to all.
For me these are two different species. The granulosites of the elytra is more coarse on the first beast. The color of the legs and antennae, but also the fifth article of the antennas are also different.
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Sergi
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Posted - 26/06/2014 :  20:09:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Gerard! I think that the fifth article of antennae is very similar, looks different, I think, by the position of the picture.
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