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KDA
Member Rosalia

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Posted - 25/08/2014 :  05:22:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Malaysia, Borneo Trus Madi

Edited by - Xavier on 21/05/2016 09:11:47

Beckey
Member Rosalia

Japan
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Posted - 30/08/2014 :  12:34:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Demonax species
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 31/08/2014 :  07:53:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, probably, I'm unable to see anything clairly on this photo.
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia

Germany
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Posted - 21/04/2016 :  12:44:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have almost the same sps from W-Papua, could it be Demonax viverra (Pascoe, 1858) described from Borneo and known up to New Guinea, the same here
without type study no chance for ID !
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 21/05/2016 :  09:11:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Clytus viverra.
C. cinereus, elongatus ; prothorace obsolete nigro-fasciato ;elytris linea curvata humerali media, alteraque lata versus apicem, nigris. Borneo.
Elongate, pubescent, cinereous grey ; prothorax oblong, elliptic, with an obscure black band ; elytra with a curved line near the shoulders, an arched band at the middle, and a broad one below, black; legs and antennae black, with a sparse ashy pubescence, the latter setaceous, rather shorter than the body, with the third and fourth joints strongly spined at the apex. Length 7 lines.
This and the above, with C. elongatidus and others, should probably form a distinct group, but the whole genus requires a revision.


Original description of Demonax viverra (Pascoe, 1858)
It fits well this specimen, but Pascoe already demanded a revision in 1858 !
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus

Czech Republic
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Posted - 21/05/2016 :  14:19:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Though the photo is very poor I would say it is not D. viverra.
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 21/05/2016 :  14:31:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Have you ever seen a true D. vivera ? Could you show us a specimen ?
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia

USA
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Posted - 22/05/2016 :  05:50:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Pascoe's description is insufficient to separate it from many other Demonax.
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 22/05/2016 :  16:48:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dryobius

Pascoe's description is insufficient to separate it from many other Demonax.
Yes, of course , that is why I ask to horshehden to show us a "true" D. viverra...
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horshehden
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Czech Republic
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Posted - 26/05/2016 :  06:02:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Sorry, I'm on a trip to China.
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 20/09/2016 :  13:26:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Did you come back ?
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loongfah
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Singapore
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Posted - 13/07/2017 :  12:52:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
The two NHM specimens of Demonax viverra collected from Singapore are now available at
http://wallace-dev.tk/species/A-Arth-Hexa-Coleoptera-000400

It seems the 2 Singapore specimens shown here are not type, and even among themselves, they look different to me, both in pronotum spot & elytral band pattern, pronotum shape, and (admittedly difficult to tell in these old specimens) the antenna coloration!
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