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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 21/03/2015 : 10:51:27
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Hello all.
I have never seen anything quite like this before. Could it be something new?
Data: 07-2014 - Brookes Point - Palawan Island 400-700m - Philippines Size: 22 mm
Thanks very much. Ben |
Edited by - Xavier on 24/03/2015 21:40:29 |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 21/03/2015 : 13:03:19
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topic moved as asked by Ben. |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/03/2015 : 13:14:09
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Thank you. Does anyone have any idea on this? It seems very distinctive but as I said before I have never seen anything like it before. It has huge spines! |
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Gerard
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Posted - 21/03/2015 : 17:37:47
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Hello Ben I think that it is of the genus Thermonotus, to verify.
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 21/03/2015 : 18:06:53
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It's a Thermonotus Gahan, 1888 acc the big pronotal spines, but the sp itself and the location are really interesting. |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
United Kingdom
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Posted - 21/03/2015 : 18:47:56
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Thanks guys. I have looked at images of all the species I can find and none resemble this one, they also seem to be from the Borneo/Malaysia area. Is there a paper for this particular family available? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 22/03/2015 : 09:37:37
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Which paper are you looking for ? |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/03/2015 : 10:57:09
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I am not sure to be honest! I wondered if there was a paper with a revision of this family, although it seems not to be the case. |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 00:49:13
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The genus Thermonotus is revised in Breuning's large Lamiini-Revision from 1943. I have found a sps that could resemble to yours: T. coeruleipennis Aurivillius, 1911 (1913) described from Borneo, and stated as ab. in Breuning (1943). |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 08:39:18
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Brilliant, thanks for digging around for me. Do you have that particular paper? I will look for it in the files section.
Regards Ben |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 20:13:55
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Translation: Thermonotus nigripennis Rits. Close to apicalis Rits., but black elytra, with bluish colour; part of scutellum reddish brown, red femora except at the apex.
ab. coeruleipennis Auriv.: light blue elytra
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 21:24:59
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Superb! Thanks for the translation also. It fits the description. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 21:38:48
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So, for its name, Thermonotus nigripennis Ritsema, 1896 or Thermonotus nigripennis coeruleipennis Aurivilius, 1911 |
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jplami
Member Rosalia
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 21:54:22
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Thermonotus coeruleipennis Aurivillius, 1911, stat. rev. in Holzschuh, Zeitschrift der Arbeitsgemeinschaft Österreichischer Entomologen, 2014, 66 : 83 (removed from synonymy with T. nigripennis Ritsema, 1896) |
Lamiaires du Monde • Lamiines of the World • Cerambycidae Lamiinae |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 24/03/2015 : 22:27:25
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Thermonotus coeruleipennis it is then. Thank you so much for everyone's input. |
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 28/03/2015 : 16:43:51
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A better picture showing Recto and Verso to complete the topic.
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