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BillTyson
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Posted - 18/05/2015 :  23:51:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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RSA, Mt. Helderberg, December, 30 mm

Perhaps this will help, even though fuzzy.

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Edited by - BillTyson on 20/05/2015 16:35:00

Carlo
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Posted - 19/05/2015 :  20:07:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Maybe Taurotagus.... maybe maybe brevipennis
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Carlo
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Posted - 19/05/2015 :  20:11:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
.... but brevipennis is not from RSA
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BillTyson
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  00:44:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I did not collect it so the data may not be good.
I have T. brevipennis and will compare it.
thanks
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Francesco
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  08:36:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I'd look for Prosphilus...
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Pierre
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  09:15:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I may be completely out of topic but... the insertion of the antennae has the typical Neoplocaederus-look. I also see spines on the sides of the pronotum. A good vertical sight on pronotum & head could be helpful.
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Francesco
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  09:48:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
No Neoplocaederus-species shows flabellate antennae...
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Pierre
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Switzerland
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  10:19:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Well, when I think of things like these

http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1961
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2341
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17903
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=17794
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14437
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3199

etc.

They tend to show flattened elongate antennal joints. Now what is flabellate, and what is not...
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Francesco
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  10:29:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Pierre

They tend to show flattened elongate antennal joints. Now what is flabellate, and what is not...

True; however, body larger, antennae shorter, pronotum with "strange" sculpturing", V antennomere flabellate and not spined, etc. suggest that it is a female of Prosphilus, as this one.
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Carlo
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  16:05:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Francesco credo che tu abbia ragione


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Pierre
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  16:47:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
oui, effectivement, la femelle Prosphilus est tout à fait plausible.
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Francesco
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  21:13:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am uncertain between Prosphilus pectinicornis Veiga Ferreira, 1953 and P. serricornis (Dalman, 1817)
Both are present in South Africa.
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Carlo
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  21:24:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Con le tabelle di Adlbauer non ci si arriva?
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Francesco
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Posted - 20/05/2015 :  21:26:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ho paura che non siano precise sulle femmine.
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