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Andre
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  15:18:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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N - Vietnam, Lao Cai Prov., Female, 16 mm.

Edited by - Gerard on 27/01/2016 21:08:14

Xavier
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Posted - 11/06/2015 :  18:02:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Monochamus sp. ?
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nalslan
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  03:35:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It reminds me Monochamus dubius.
However, features do not fit iconographic book well, such as color of legs.
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Xavier
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Posted - 12/06/2015 :  07:03:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, me too, close to Monochamus sparsutus Fairmaire, 1889 (valid name in Titan), but blacker and without longitudinal bands on pronotal sides.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 21/12/2015 :  22:48:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have a pair of this sps from Sa Pa area too, and believe its not M. sparsutus (= dubius), at least pronotum and antennae are different from spms I have from Nepal, Laos and Vietnam.
Xavier did you find already the types of this group in Paris as you wrote last year, f.e. M. talianus etc., maybe this sps is already described.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 21/12/2015 :  22:55:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Monochamus fascioguttatus Gressitt, 1938 from Taiwan is really very similar !
Who synonymised this sps with M. dubius acc Titan ?

Edited by - Xaurus on 21/12/2015 22:59:05
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Xavier
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Posted - 22/12/2015 :  00:14:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
No, I have not found holotype of M. dubius / sparsutus in MNHN; may be next time?

For M. fascioguttatus Gress. the synonymy has been made by Breuning:


From BREUNING S., 1944. Études sur les Lamiaires (Coleop. Cerambycidæ). Douzième tribu : Agniini Thomson. Novitates Entomologicæ, 3ème supplément (107-135): 281-512, figs 158-305.


Edited by - Xavier on 22/12/2015 00:34:27
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Xaurus
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Posted - 14/03/2016 :  00:42:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It could be that our spms from N-Vietnam belongs to M. fascioguttatus indeed, the white/yellowish speckles are a variable character, the HT spm here.
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Xavier
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Posted - 07/06/2017 :  19:48:17  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Monochamus fascioguttatus Gressitt, 1938 is a synonym of Monochamus sparsutus (Fairmaire, 1889).
With this one, this the third holotype picture I see, and all of them are ...different !

Edited by - Xavier on 07/06/2017 20:05:51
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Francesco
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Posted - 30/05/2019 :  09:22:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Monochamus fascioguttatus is not a synonym of Monochamus sparsutus.
It is about an old Breuning's synonymy (1944, 1949, see here), which Breuning himself corrected (see e.g. Rondon & Breuning, 1970, Lamiinae du Laos: 463).
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Xavier
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Posted - 30/05/2019 :  11:19:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
J'ai informé Tavakilian de cette fausse synonymie.
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