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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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 Posted - 17/07/2015 : 01:03:16
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Vietnam 26 mm
Help identify, please. |
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dryobius
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Capitaine
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 17/07/2015 : 16:00:28
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This specimen let me think about genus Anoplophora (new species ?)
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 17/07/2015 : 18:12:26
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| This species was inserted in this forum also here. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 18/07/2015 : 00:43:07
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| The first specimen from Tam Dao (32 mm) has blue pubescence on various areas of the body and may be a different species, but it is impossible to know what to think with just a few photos. They may be one species with a lot of individual variation. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 18/07/2015 : 14:17:43
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This is a species of Mimonemophas, per Eric Jiroux (personal communication).
He and colleagues are studying this due to the discovery of apparently one or two new species. The one or two different species in the forum photographs can not be identified at this time. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 21/12/2015 : 23:50:07
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Two very recent papers on this genus....
Bi & Ohbayashi (Nov. 30) synonymize Mimonemophas under Anoplophora, and describe a new species closely related to "quadrifasciatus".
Xie et al (Dec 14) describe a new Mimonemophas from China, also, closely related to "quadrifasciatus"
The correct name for this, now, I believe, is Anoplophora quadrifasciata (Breuning, 1961).
This species has been posted several other times recently. |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 01:18:19
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| Hello Dan, please, check punctuation at elytral basis. From your photo it is not clear. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 09:06:33
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In Xie & Al, what do you think about different pattern between Breuning's drawing of M.quadrifasciata and the species showed ?
My specimens from Vietnam are like Dan's specimens, with dense punctuation on basis of elytra and I am not sure to recognize them in this paper.
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 11:53:23
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| It looks like A. cheni. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 13:34:42
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Yes, I agree.
Thanks. |
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BinLiu
Member Demonax
China
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 14:21:24
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| what's the title of B & Ohbayshi's article???? |
love longicorns |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 14:51:25
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quote:
Originally posted by BinLiu
what's the title of B & Ohbayshi's article????
Have a look here |
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BinLiu
Member Demonax
China
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 15:46:05
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| many thanks, Xavier!!!!!! |
love longicorns |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 19:17:10
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| It is very strange (ahah) that authors forget Vietnameese data from our forum... just searching "Mimonemophas" on internet to find all our pictures. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 22/12/2015 : 20:48:10
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I have looked at both of these papers and wish that more specimens could have been studied, because cheni seems very close to quadrifasciatus.
Is there anything else, besides basal elytral granulation / punctation that can be used to separate them?
I think of a recent species described from Borneo (different tribe) where the author found and described a specimen with the pronotal punctation different (medium-heavy punctation versus somewhat punctate) and there was also a color variation to the new species (but which is widely observed in the tribe - due to hymenopteran mimicry). My own short series of specimens (which he never saw) shows a variation in the amount of punctation on the pronotum.
I am also guilty of helping to describe species based on a single specimen, however this is not the best example of overwhelming evidence. Anoplophora has always been a problem.
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Vietnam: Anoplophora cheni
