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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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 Posted - 18/07/2015 : 23:39:20
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Kalimantan-Borneo 24 mm
Any ideas? |
Edited by - Xavier on 29/01/2016 18:22:01 |
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Francesco
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Posted - 19/07/2015 : 16:23:02
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| Lamiini... is the cicatrix of the scape open or close? |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 19/07/2015 : 22:11:18
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Hi Francesco and all. I feel like a novice, because when I looked at the scape (virtually no trace of a cicatrix).... I saw that this species could not be Lamiini (=Monochamini) !!
I quickly looked in Breuning's revision of Rhodopinini and I found the name I was looking for: Anacasta conspersa Aur., 1916.
It is several millimeters larger than the 19-21 mm as defined in Breuning's revision, however the beetle is otherwise an exact match to his photograph. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 29/01/2016 : 18:20:59
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Desmiphorini :
Pseudopharsalia flavostictica Breuning, 1969 ; holotype available here |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 01/02/2016 : 14:58:40
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Do you have Breuning's Revision of Rhodopini? (1975 & 1976 ). My copy is not an original and the black & white pictures are fuzzy, but this is what I believe:
Aurivillius (1916, see plate 8 figure 9) described a male and called it Anacasta conspersa... Breuning (1969) described a female: Pseudopharsalia flavosticta.
In Breuning's paper, you can see pictures of both species on the same page!! |
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Xavier
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Posted - 01/02/2016 : 21:33:11
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Very interesting. I have the same copy than yours I think. I post here both descriptions in french and pictures to follow the discussion :
 
 
Note: My color picture HT is the same specimen than in Breuning's revision |
Edited by - Xavier on 01/02/2016 21:37:34 |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 02/02/2016 : 00:26:29
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I have asked a colleague if he can get me a color photograph of the holotype of A. conspersa. This may take a long time... or perhaps I will not get any results.
I feel rather certain that there is but one species involved.
If anybody has a photo of the holotype of A. conspersa, I would like to see it. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 10/03/2016 : 13:35:58
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I received an image of the holotype of A. conspersa and I am rather certain that the image I posted last year is the same species, which would mean that Pseudopharsalia flavosticta is a synonym.
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Francesco
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Posted - 10/03/2016 : 15:06:16
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Good job, Dan!  |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 10/03/2016 : 21:46:33
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| For me , it is the same species. I will post tomorrow the summary of the 2 ways going to the 2 "species" with Breuning's key (Révision de la Tribu des Rhodopinini 1975 & 1976 ). It should be interesting to understand how Breuning separated them... |
Edited by - Xavier on 10/03/2016 21:48:22 |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 13/03/2016 : 09:18:54
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In Breuning Revision's key (1975), files are :
1, 61, 63, 71, 72, 94, 129, 130, 133, 134, 135 Anacasta Aur.
1, 61, 63, 71, 72, 94, 95, 97, 102, 103, 109, 111, 115, 116 Pseudopharsalia Breun.
Point 94 is :
. Tibias intermédiaires échancrés ou pourvus d'un fort sillon ( = mid tibias strongly furrowed )... (95, etc) ...Pseudopharsalia
- Tibias intermédiaires sinués ou pourvus d'un léger sillon dorsal ( = mid tibias slightly furrowed )... ( 129, etc) ...Anacasta |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 15/03/2016 : 14:21:20
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Two people could easily arrive at two different conclusions with a choice like this.
The unfortunate problems with much of Breuning's work appears that he did not study the holotypes. And it must have been impossible for him to get photographs from other museums.
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 16/03/2016 : 00:52:01
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Breuning used his own keys to add new genera or species, and of course you cannot reach any successful result, anybody know this, quite amazing he didn't know almost the species he listed before in his keys, he described without collection or comparisons, sometimes he didn't open the drawer to describe, how he could see some important characters
hopelessly  I heard any stories from colleagues met Breuning personally and discussed with him, in any case astonishment  |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 16/03/2016 : 13:24:28
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| Someone should publish the synonymy. I am hoping to publish a paper with Vives on Bornean Lamiinae within the next year, and this note could be included then, I hope. Xavier... if you ware planning anything sooner, with Lamiinae, from that region, let's discuss it. You can use my photo of Anacasta conspersa from Mt. Bawang, as necessary. It doesn't matter to me who publishes this short note, really. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 16/03/2016 : 13:29:26
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| I would not publish anything about this species. If somebody needs my pictures of holotype, just ask me. |
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Francesco
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Posted - 27/09/2016 : 19:26:30
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Enfin... Vives & Heffern published the synonymy
Anacasta Aurivillius, 1916 = Pseudopharsalia Breuning, 1969
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Anacasta conspersa Aurivillius, 1916 = Pseudopharsalia flavostictica Breuning, 1969
Vives E. & Heffern D. J., 2016 - Descriptions and notes on Oriental lonhorned beetles, mostly from Borneo, Part III (Coleoptera, Cerambycidae, Lamiinae) - Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 23: 107-128. |
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Borneo: Anacasta conspersa
