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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 09/08/2015 :  17:28:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


13 mm from Bach Ma National Park, Thua Thien Hue Province, Central Vietnam.

Thanks,

Larry B.

Francesco
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Posted - 11/08/2015 :  22:29:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It it very alike to Dolichostyrax Aurivillius, 1911; however, Morimopsini.
It might be Microdorcadion tuberculatum Pic, 1925
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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 11/08/2015 :  23:00:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Francesco.

I have the Pic 1925 paper and will check out the descriptions of Microdorcadion & M.tuberculatum.

Larry B.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 11/08/2015 :  23:22:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Microdorcadion tuberculatum Pic, 1925 is a quite different sps, for me your spm belongs more to the genus Centruropsis Breuning, 1950
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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 12/08/2015 :  00:18:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks Andreas,

I had success with the Monograph. With your head start, I was able to key the specimen to Centruropsis.

The description matches well. The only thing that was not mentioned, which seems important, are the black velvet marks on the back of the head. The head on my specimen is not tucked all the way into the pronotum. I could see, depending on the condition of Pic's holotype which was studied by Breuning, these marks being hidden.

For now, I am going with Centruropsis dorcadionoides (Pic) 1928.

Larry B.
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Jérôme Sudre
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Posted - 12/08/2015 :  19:05:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonsoir

Oui ce genre effectivement est un Centruropsis, j'avais pu voir il y a quelques années le type de cette espèce au MNHN (je n'avais pas pris de photos.....) dont l'habitus ressemble un peu au genre Dolichosthyrax entre autres choses, ce que j'avais noté dans mon fichier et ce que je pensais sur cette photo ne me doutant pas du tout qu'il s'agissait d'un Centruropsis mais plutôt à Dolichosthyrax ce qui ne me convenait pas !!
Donc oui votre bête est bien Centruropsis et très probablement l'espèce dorcadionoides.
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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 12/08/2015 :  20:12:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci, Jerome.

It is truly amazing to me, the wealth of knowledge possessed by the members of this forum.

Larry B.
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Xaurus
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Germany
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Posted - 13/08/2015 :  00:13:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Now I found a HT picture (see type section) of C. dorcadionoides, this sps looks really different.
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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 13/08/2015 :  00:21:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I would like to see the type, but I cannot.

Larry B.
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Jérôme Sudre
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Posted - 13/08/2015 :  18:16:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
La photo du type dans la galerie y ressemble mais j'ai tout de même un doute sur l'appartenance à l'espèce dorcadionoides ??
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MONO
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 11/02/2018 :  14:29:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Morimospasma nitidituberculatum ???
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Capitaine
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France
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Posted - 13/02/2018 :  16:15:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Voici un spm identifié comme Centruropsis dorcadionoides (Yunnan)

Claude
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longyun
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China
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Posted - 03/12/2018 :  07:04:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
No, no, no, I do not see any similarities to neither Centruropsis nor Morimospasma, neither specimen. How did you got this idea??
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woshixiao
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China
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Posted - 16/05/2022 :  10:11:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Centruropsis dorcadionoides (Pic, 1928) HT
See Bi, 2016 Studies on the Flightless Lamiinae (Coleoptera: Cerambycidae) from China, I.
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