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Xavier
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Posted - 15/08/2015 :  19:34:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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18 mm. San Miguel, Surigao del Sur, Mindanao, Philippines.

First five antennae segments hairy. A Pseudoplanodes sp. ?

Edited by - Xavier on 27/12/2015 09:38:01

jplami
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Posted - 15/08/2015 :  21:11:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Beau specimen de Pseudoplanodes xenoceroides (Heller, 1923)

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Xavier
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Posted - 15/08/2015 :  21:26:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci Jean-Philippe .
Le texte de Breuning (révision des Mesosini) est un peu... obscur.

Edited by - Xavier on 15/08/2015 21:27:30
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Xavier
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Posted - 26/12/2015 :  20:05:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
...mais que penser de la ressemblance avec Cacia triangularis Breuning, 1980 dont la photo du type est ici ?
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jplami
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Posted - 26/12/2015 :  22:49:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Ton lamiaire correspond au type de Planodes helleri Schwarzer, 1926 illustré dans un précédent post d'août 2015.
Ce dernier est synonyme de Pseudoplanodes xenoceroides (Heller, 1923).
Il semble bien que le Cacia triangularis soit également un synonyme de Planodes xenoceroides Heller.

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Xavier
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Posted - 26/12/2015 :  23:01:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci Jean-Philippe, et bonnes fêtes chez toi
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jplami
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Posted - 26/12/2015 :  23:12:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Je complète avec la page de Heller,1923:18 décrivant Planodes xenoceroides


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Xavier
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Posted - 27/12/2015 :  09:28:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Le lien pour la ssp. helleri photographiée par Xaurus ici.

Dans Titan, il n'y a pas de ssp. helleri : Planodes Helleri Schwarzer, 1926 est considéré comme un synonyme de Pseudoplanodes xenoceroides (Heller, 1923).

Edited by - Xavier on 27/12/2015 09:32:09
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Francesco
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Posted - 27/12/2015 :  14:34:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Personne n'a jamais considéré helleri comme une sous-espèce.
Selon Breuning (1939), helleri est une morphe (c.a.d. une variété) de xenoceroides et il est reporté comme ça dans BioLib.
Pourtant, les photos de Xaurus ne correspondent pas à la description de Breuning et elles ne diffèrent de rien du xenoceroides typique ...
Cacia triangularis est une synonyme à publier, mais il faut même noter une ressemblance avec Cacia triangulifera de Célèbes (ici)...
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Xaurus
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Posted - 29/12/2015 :  01:07:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Planodes helleri Schwarzer, 1926 was described as a valid species, I don't know who made the synonymy with P. xenoceroides, Schwarzer's description corresponds well with the type picture I have already presented.
I hope anybody can provide a type picture of P. xenoceroides, I believe both species are not conspecifically.
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Xavier
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Posted - 05/01/2016 :  09:59:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Xaurus

Planodes helleri Schwarzer, 1926 was described as a valid species, I don't know who made the synonymy with P. xenoceroides

As Francesco wrote, it is in Breuning, 1939:


Breuning, 1939. Études sur les Lamiaires (Coléop. Cerambycidæ). Huitième tribu : Mesosini Thomson. Novitates Entomologicæ, 3ème supplément (50-66). Page 460
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Xaurus
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Posted - 06/01/2016 :  01:28:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
yes, Breuning made this, but is that right ? needs confirmation
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