Cerambycoidea Forum
Cerambycoidea Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Generalities
 News
 New holotypes pictures
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Send Topic to a Friend
 Printer Friendly
| More
Next Page
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic
Page: of 2

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2015 :  08:16:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonjour,
Je vais ajouter ce weekend environ 70 nouvelles photographies de types prises cette semaine au MNHN-Paris.

I will add this weekend about 70 new pictures of holotypes from MNHN-Paris.


Edited by - Xavier on 03/10/2015 08:22:05

Sergi
Member Rosenbergia

Spain
1740 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2015 :  08:29:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much Xavier, your work is very useful!!
Go to Top of Page

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2015 :  09:59:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
My photos are not very good (too much light in Paris this week!, and I have not understood how to correct that with my poor camera), but if only one picture is useful...
Go to Top of Page

dryobius
Member Rosenbergia

USA
1885 Posts

Posted - 03/10/2015 :  15:46:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Xavier,
Thank you for posting the holotype photos.

It is quite interesting to see the Astathini, and one can not argue that they are one of many very difficult groups to identify.

My main interest (for now) is just Bornean species and those of nearby areas.

I began by looking at the holotype photo of Astathes bipartita Th. and then looking at A. perversa Gahan, which is currently a synonym of A. bipartita. A lateral view of these species clearly shows that these are not the same species. Even the elytra shows that one has more hair on it than the other.

I have long believed that this group has many undescribed species, but it also appears that there could be species which were inappropriately synonymized.

Also, some of the Astathini are quite rare, others have variation in the patterns or maculae on the elytra. In my opinion, the genus Bacchisa is even more troublesome than Tetraopthalmus (=Astathes).
Go to Top of Page

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2015 :  11:58:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dryobius

I began by looking at the holotype photo of Astathes bipartita Th. and then looking at A. perversa Gahan, which is currently a synonym of A. bipartita. A lateral view of these species clearly shows that these are not the same species. Even the elytra shows that one has more hair on it than the other.
I agree. T. perversa has a longer body also.

quote:
Originally posted by dryobius

In my opinion, the genus Bacchisa is even more troublesome than Tetraopthalmus (=Astathes).
Yes, but I wonder what is a true T. levis?
I have different morpha from Philippines and it is still unclear for me...

Edited by - Xavier on 04/10/2015 11:59:14
Go to Top of Page

dryobius
Member Rosenbergia

USA
1885 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2015 :  14:46:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Xavier,
Did I share with you some Astathini photos (mostly Bornean) from Dr. Saito in Japan? I do not remember if I emailed them to you. Among the Japanese entomologists, she has the most interest in this group and would certainly appreciate your photographs of the Paris holotypes.

For T. levis, and other Philippine species, I can not offer any advice. Populations on every island are continuously evolving.
Go to Top of Page

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2015 :  16:24:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, you dit it. But you can send me again her mail adress because I am more and more interested by Astathini, and I have more informations to share with her.

Edited by - Xavier on 04/10/2015 16:27:16
Go to Top of Page

Larry Bezark
Member Macrodontia

USA
2211 Posts

Posted - 04/10/2015 :  17:48:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Excellent Xavier, thank you for the efforts.

I would like to see these images but I am still prohibited from looking at them.

Is there a chance that restriction could be removed?

Thanks

Larry B.
Go to Top of Page

Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia

Germany
1885 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2015 :  01:01:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
You did a great job again, thanks a lot Xavier !
Go to Top of Page

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 05/10/2015 :  01:05:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xaurus

You did a great job again, thanks a lot Xavier !



Thanks all guys, it is a great pleasure to work with you.
Go to Top of Page

Gerard
Scientific Collaborator

France
5238 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2015 :  18:28:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonjour à tous, j’entre une nouvelle série de type du MNHN.
Que penser vous de rentrer les localités et tribu pour faciliter les recherches ?
Go to Top of Page

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 07/11/2015 :  18:38:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
oui, bonne idée : de toute façon, c'est un +
Go to Top of Page

Francesco
Forum Admin

Luxembourg
9398 Posts

Posted - 14/11/2015 :  08:53:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gerard

Que penser vous de rentrer les localités et tribu pour faciliter les recherches ?


Gérard, tu es en train de faire un super travail.
Merci de tout cœur!
Go to Top of Page

Gerard
Scientific Collaborator

France
5238 Posts

Posted - 14/11/2015 :  17:41:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci c'est avec plaisir.
Les types vont remonter.
J’harmonise tous ça (Même couleur et infos).
Si quelqu’un voit une erreur, qu’il n’hésite pas à le dire dans ce poste.
Merci à vous tous de participer.
Go to Top of Page

SDevesa
Member Purpuricenus

Spain
175 Posts

Posted - 15/12/2015 :  21:48:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Xavier:
What do I need to do to enter into the Type section and look at the pictures?
Thanks
Go to Top of Page

Xavier
Scientific Collaborator

France
11972 Posts

Posted - 15/12/2015 :  22:56:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hi Sergio,
You just need...48 more messages
Go to Top of Page
Page: of 2 Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Next Page
 New Topic  Reply to Topic
 Send Topic to a Friend
 Printer Friendly
| More
Jump To:
Cerambycoidea Forum © 2000-08 Snitz Communications Go To Top Of Page
Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.07