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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 09/10/2015 : 02:08:56
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Luzon, June, 12 mm. another Cacia sp. |
Edited by - BillTyson on 10/10/2015 00:05:04 |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 09/10/2015 : 08:22:11
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A Cacia sp. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 09/10/2015 : 13:40:12
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Bill, this genus is in sore need of a revision. As with many Philippine genera (Glenea, Cereopsius, Sybra..), you have numerous species on many, many islands. Undoubtedly, the populations get separated, then probably re-unite, over and over. I have Cacia identified by Hudepohl and Yamasako ... with different names. What I'm saying is that some species have different vatiations to the patterns on the elytra. A good collection of Philippine Cerambycidae is going to have many specimens that can only be identified to genus. Yamasako is currently the best expert on Oriental Mesosini, however, I think he is not interested in Cacia at the moment. But, I would suggest that you correspond with him anyway, because he has been very helpful to me. |
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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
USA
1200 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2015 : 15:59:45
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Does he have an email address? |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
1887 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2015 : 20:21:11
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this is the name and address as given on one of recent publications:
JUNSUKE YAMASAKO JSPS Research Fellow, Department of General Systems Studies, Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, The University of Tokyo, Komaba 3-8-1, Meguro, Tokyo 153-8902, Japan. E-mail: mesoxxmesosa@hotmail.com |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 09/10/2015 : 22:30:23
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However, this one seems to be Cacia (Coreothrophora) interruptovittata Heller, 1923, endemic from Luzon. Another picture here. |
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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 10/10/2015 : 00:05:04
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Here is what I, and some others have been calling interruptovittata. Is the species that variable or is this another one? |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 10/10/2015 : 03:35:22
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I agree with Francesco, your first specimen is C. interruptovittata. Heller provides a drawing in his original description which is an excellent comparison.
The second specimen in your post is a different species in my opinion. Besides the pattern of the elytra, your two specimens do not have the same dark color on the elytra... one is more brownish. |
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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
USA
1200 Posts |
Posted - 10/10/2015 : 07:46:26
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Well, at least I know the name of one of them. Many thanks, guys. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 10/10/2015 : 11:14:06
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Dear Billy, you should not have modified the first part of the topic adding a new picture, since the sense of the replies has been modified. Consequently, I have stopped the Forum and moved your modification as a new reply.
Coming back to your topic...
Are these three forms from Luzon (female, female, male) really different species? |
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