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BillTyson
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Posted - 09/10/2015 :  02:08:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Luzon, June, 12 mm.
another Cacia sp.

Edited by - BillTyson on 10/10/2015 00:05:04

Xavier
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Posted - 09/10/2015 :  08:22:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
A Cacia sp.
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dryobius
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Posted - 09/10/2015 :  13:40:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bill, this genus is in sore need of a revision. As with many Philippine genera (Glenea, Cereopsius, Sybra..), you have numerous species on many, many islands. Undoubtedly, the populations get separated, then probably re-unite, over and over. I have Cacia identified by Hudepohl and Yamasako ... with different names. What I'm saying is that some species have different vatiations to the patterns on the elytra. A good collection of Philippine Cerambycidae is going to have many specimens that can only be identified to genus. Yamasako is currently the best expert on Oriental Mesosini, however, I think he is not interested in Cacia at the moment. But, I would suggest that you correspond with him anyway, because he has been very helpful to me.
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BillTyson
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Posted - 09/10/2015 :  15:59:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Does he have an email address?
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dryobius
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Posted - 09/10/2015 :  20:21:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
this is the name and address as given on one of recent publications:

JUNSUKE YAMASAKO
JSPS Research Fellow, Department of General Systems Studies, Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, The University of Tokyo, Komaba 3-8-1, Meguro, Tokyo 153-8902, Japan. E-mail: mesoxxmesosa@hotmail.com
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Francesco
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Posted - 09/10/2015 :  22:30:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
However, this one seems to be Cacia (Coreothrophora) interruptovittata Heller, 1923, endemic from Luzon.
Another picture here.
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BillTyson
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Posted - 10/10/2015 :  00:05:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Here is what I, and some others have been calling interruptovittata.
Is the species that variable or is this another one?
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dryobius
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Posted - 10/10/2015 :  03:35:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I agree with Francesco, your first specimen is C. interruptovittata.
Heller provides a drawing in his original description which is an excellent comparison.

The second specimen in your post is a different species in my opinion.
Besides the pattern of the elytra, your two specimens do not have the same dark color on the elytra... one is more brownish.
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BillTyson
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Posted - 10/10/2015 :  07:46:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Well, at least I know the name of one of them.
Many thanks, guys.
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Francesco
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Posted - 10/10/2015 :  11:14:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dear Billy, you should not have modified the first part of the topic adding a new picture, since the sense of the replies has been modified.
Consequently, I have stopped the Forum and moved your modification as a new reply.


Coming back to your topic...



Are these three forms from Luzon (female, female, male) really different species?
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