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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 17/10/2015 :  21:26:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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Hi everyone.
This striking beetle is just off my spreading plastazote, an Anameromorpha sp but which one?

Data: 04-2014 - Mt Bawang 1400m - West Kalimantan - Indonesia

Thanks again.
Ben

Edited by - Xavier on 18/10/2015 09:52:19

Xavier
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Posted - 17/10/2015 :  21:41:52  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Only three species in the genus Anameromorpha: 2 of them from Vietnam/ Laos (holotypes from MNHN Paris in the section) and one in Malaisia (Borneo):


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Anameromorpha pollinosa Holzschuh, 2009 HT male

So, your specimen is none of those 3 known species.
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Gerard
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Posted - 17/10/2015 :  22:37:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ca ressemble a un Pseudomyagrus waterhousei (Gahan, 1888) sans tache.
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Xavier
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Posted - 18/10/2015 :  00:25:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ce n'est pas non plus Pseudomyagrus Waterhousei m. borneensis Breuning, 1950 (nord Borneo) qui a "les taches foncées de la 1ère et 2ème bande beaucoup plus grandes, et pas de tache dans la moitié apicale".
Mais il s'agit peut-être alors d'une autre variété ?

Edited by - Xavier on 18/10/2015 00:26:00
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dryobius
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Posted - 18/10/2015 :  03:48:26  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have seen only 4 or 5 Pseudomyagrus from Sabah. I have seen specimen(s) from Kalimantan on Ebay and they look very similar. Only the blue color might be a little darker or a little lighter. Perhaps that can be effected by killing chemicals. A photo of one in my collection is here below. For me it is very difficult to say that it is a different species than P. waterhousei.

Eric Jiroux and I discussed the Bornean species before and we both agree that if there were a large number of specimens available for study, perhaps a conclusion could be reached.

For now, I just consider it as P. waterhousei, but potentially something more.


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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 18/10/2015 :  11:50:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Hello all.
Many thanks for the discussion. Strange specimens indeed if they are P. waterhousei.
Just to add to the discussion, I just went to my collection and found my pair of P. waterhousei and put them alongside this specimen.
Here is the picture.
I did consider Anameromorpha metallica initially.


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Xavier
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Posted - 19/02/2017 :  11:36:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Holotype picture of Pseudomyagrus waterhousei (Gahan, 1888) is here.
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dryobius
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Posted - 19/02/2017 :  12:39:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Jiroux is publishing a paper about Pseudomyagrus in next Cahiers.... let's all be patient and get his opinion.
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Xavier
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Posted - 19/02/2017 :  13:01:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I'm not impatient; I just show a link !
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 19/02/2017 :  18:34:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
The specimen is probably an aberrant form.
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Francesco
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Posted - 03/05/2017 :  18:54:48  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dryobius

Jiroux is publishing a paper about Pseudomyagrus in next Cahiers

Pseudomyagrus waterhousei var. borneensis Breuning, 1950 has been revalued as bona species.
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 11/01/2018 :  08:33:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Great stuff, thanks.
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