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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 16/11/2015 :  08:49:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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Hello all.
I've had difficulty trying to post images lately, hopefully thanks to Xavier I have fixed the problem (just renaming files with no spaces has worked, thank you!)
I feel I should know this species but cannot quite pin it down.

Data: 25-04-14 - Mt Dayaoshan 700m - Pingban - Jinxiu - Guangxi - China - 16.5mm

Thanks

Edited by - Xavier on 17/03/2017 17:07:36

Xavier
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Posted - 17/11/2015 :  12:06:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It could be a Monochamus sp. , but I do not see enough details on your picture.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 17/11/2015 :  23:39:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
why not M. dubius (Gahan, 1894) ?
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 18/11/2015 :  09:20:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, looks good. I have had a closer look at it. I thought it was greased up but it appears not as I have de-greased it and it is still the same hue, must be a dark form.
Thanks.
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Xavier
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Posted - 18/11/2015 :  10:28:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
In Titan database valid name of Monochamus dubius Gahan is Monochamus sparsutus Fairmaire, 1889.

To compare to specimen here which have bigger spots than yours (see also others specimens in the forum). We need to see the holotype of this species, and others of small Monochamus species.

I wait a little to go to Paris...

Edited by - Xavier on 18/11/2015 10:29:09
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MONO
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Posted - 17/03/2017 :  16:54:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
For me, I suppose it is real typical Monochamus sparsutus (Fairmaire, 1889)
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Xavier
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Posted - 17/03/2017 :  17:07:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
We have 2 holotypes pictures from MNHN of M sparsutus in the forum (type section), and it should be ok.
But on picture, there is always a doubt....

Edited by - Xavier on 17/03/2017 17:08:09
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MONO
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Posted - 18/03/2017 :  13:46:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Indeed, We need to check more specimens.
Xavier, I have a question in Titan I don't know why it regards Monochamus dubius (Gahan, 1894) as a synonym of Monochamus sparsutus (Fairmaire, 1889)
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Xavier
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Posted - 18/03/2017 :  14:20:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Dear Mono,

For the synonym dubius/sparsutus:

- It is not by Breuning (1970, Laos fauna): M. dubius still exist

So, it should be in PU Fuji, 1992. Insects of the Hengduan Mountains Region, Volume 1. The Comprehensive Scientific Expedition to the Qinghai-Xizang Plateau. Coleoptera: Disteniidae and Cerambycidae. Science Press, Beijing, 5: xii + 1-865.
or in HUA Li-Zhong, 2002. List of Chinese Insects. Zhongshan (Sun Yat-sen) University Press, Guangzhou. List of Chinese Insects 2: 1-612.

I have none of those 2 text, so I can not check anything, sorry.
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MONO
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Posted - 22/03/2017 :  11:48:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Xavier, thanks for your answer and explanation.
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