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Riana
Member Rosalia

South Africa
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Posted - 22/12/2015 :  12:38:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


Hi all,
Think this is Deroplia alutacea Thomson, 1861
Light trap, 12 Nov. 2014
Length 12 mm
Mpumalanga, Middelburg

Edited by - Riana on 23/12/2015 22:17:44

Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosenbergia

France
1770 Posts

Posted - 22/12/2015 :  22:19:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonsoir

Cette Stenidea me semble être S (Amblesthidus) simplex Fahraeus.

Le genre Deroplia pour moi n'avait pas à être réhabilité !
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Riana
Member Rosalia

South Africa
734 Posts

Posted - 23/12/2015 :  15:17:48  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks Jérôme,
Note from Francesco's comment here that "Deroplia Dejean is nomen nudum, as Téocchi proved."
Take it that Francesco is referring to Téocchi 2003. Stenidea Mulsant 1843 et non Deroplia Dejean 1835 (Col., Cerambycidae, Lamiinae). Lambillionea, Bruxelles, 103, 3: 508-509.
Is Sama's 2007 paper "Le statut nomenclatural des genres Deroplia Dejean, 1835 et Stenidea Mulsant, 1842 (Col., Cerambycidae, Lamiinae) then not valid?
Please note that I'm not trying to argue, but would rather like to know for future reference.
Regards Riana.
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Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosenbergia

France
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Posted - 23/12/2015 :  21:43:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonsoir Riana

Yes I know these articles but like many people we make mistakes and continue to use the names "Invalid" as each of us can do it, and here I only allowed myself to say that Deroplia was invalid and that it must employ Stenidea
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