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kbdesai
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Posted - 12/02/2016 :  15:18:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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POC: SOuthern India (Kerala: Nilamburi)
Guess: Noserius sp?

Thank you.....

Xavier
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Posted - 12/02/2016 :  19:58:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Nice picture, but you forgot the lenght of the specimen

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description of Noserius gardneri Martins, 1980 by Gardner (1939)

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kbdesai
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Posted - 12/02/2016 :  20:11:10  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Xavier,

Whether is this Noserius indicus or Noserius gardneri? (sorry it is bit confusing for me! so?)
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Xavier
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Posted - 12/02/2016 :  21:06:10  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Not easy, but I try to explain :

Gardner(1939) has described a species as Noserius indicus.

Gahan's species Hypoëschrus indicus Gahan, 1906 is became Noserius indicus (Gahan, 1906)

So, Martins changed Gardner's species in Noserius gardneri Martins, 1980

If the ID is ok for your species, the correct name is Noserius gardneri Martins, 1980

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kbdesai
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  10:36:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much Xavier..
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  12:19:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Noserius indicus (Gahan, 1906) is a completely brown species with a different habitus (e.g. apical spines, elytral ridges):


Hypoeschrus indicus Gahan, 1906: Fig. 41
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horshehden
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  12:53:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
This is one should be the species described by Gardner.
By contrast, the species described by Gahan should probably be kept in Hypoeschrus.
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  13:17:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Probably, but I did not read Sama's paper about this topic.
Have you got it?
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horshehden
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  14:34:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
No, neither me.
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kbdesai
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  15:02:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Is it, then some extent colour variation will matter to identify this species, right?

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Xavier
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Posted - 13/02/2016 :  17:57:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Dear Kariyanna ,
It is not necessary to use "reply with quote" for each message (it is heavy for the reader). You can just use "reply to topic " down the page.


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kbdesai
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Posted - 15/02/2016 :  05:31:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hmm 0k.! Your always a better guide to me..

Thanks
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