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Xavier
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 Posted - 14/11/2016 : 12:50:13
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12 mm; Chayu, Zhuwagen, Tibet, Chine. Nupserha sp.
Sans doute la même espèce postée par Sergi ici. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 14/11/2016 : 13:44:10
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Cette espèce pourrait-elle être Nupserha schmidi Breuning, 1966 ?
Holzschuh(1990) a décrit 3 ssp. du Nepal. Bien qu'ayant le 3ème sternite rougeâtre (? ), Nupserha schmidi tambaensis Holz. ( holotype ici ) a la même taille et les fémurs antérieurs bicolores.
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Je ne comprends pas si cette espèce a la tête noire. |
Edited by - Xavier on 14/11/2016 13:47:22 |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 15/11/2016 : 00:32:19
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| looks like Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Breuning, 1950 from N-India and Nepal, N. schmidi tambaensis is another one. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 15/11/2016 : 08:56:42
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Thank you.
I understand nothing about this species in Titan 
.The author of Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis is...WEIGEL Andreas, 2006
.Breuning has described Nupserha flavipennis Breuning, 1950
. Nupserha pallidipennis (Redtenbacher, 1848) is another species (?)
so, there is no Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Breuning, 1950...
Where is the mistake ? I can't check anything because I have none of the papers (Breuning 1950 & 1960, Wielgel 2006) |
Edited by - Xavier on 15/11/2016 09:53:30 |
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Xaurus
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Posted - 16/11/2016 : 01:19:47
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do you know:
Holzschuh,C. (1986): Die Nupserha-Arten Nepals (Col.,Cerambycidae). Koleopt. Rdsch.58: 137- 154. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 : 08:26:44
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Yes:
Holzschuh, 1986
but what about Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Weigel, 2006 on Titan database instead of your Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Breuning, 1950 above ?
My question was clear, no ?  Is it an error in Titan database ??
Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Weigel, 2006 has been published in WEIGEL A., 2006. Checklist and Bibliography of Longhorn Beetles from Nepal (Insecta: Coleoptera: Cerambycidae). In Matthias Hartmann & J. Weipert (Editors). Biodiversität und Naturausstattung im Himalaya II. Verein der Freunde und Förderer des Naturkundemuseums Erfurt e. V.: 495-510.
Is it true or not ? |
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Francesco
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Posted - 16/11/2016 : 08:58:38
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N. flavipennis Breuning a été considérée un synonyme et ensuite (Holzschuh, 1990: 195) une sous-espèce de N. pallidipennis.
Il n'y a pas une N. flavipennis Weigel.
Weigel (2006) a mentionné cette combinaison, mais Holzschuh (1990: 195) l'avait fait avant lui (il manque une citation dans Titan). |
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 : 09:12:05
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Là, je suis totalement perdu ( I am lost, help !  )
Bon quel est le nom valide ?? |
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 : 09:19:01
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Holzschuh, 1990: 195
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 : 10:22:12
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| Ok, so it is an error in titan database forgetting Holzschuh (1990). |
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Xaurus
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Posted - 17/11/2016 : 00:37:44
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| so it's clear, your spms belong to flavipennis ! |
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Tibet : Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis
