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Xavier
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Posted - 14/11/2016 :  12:50:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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12 mm; Chayu, Zhuwagen, Tibet, Chine. Nupserha sp.
Sans doute la même espèce postée par Sergi ici.

Edited by - Xavier on 16/11/2016 09:32:30

Xavier
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Posted - 14/11/2016 :  13:44:10  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Cette espèce pourrait-elle être Nupserha schmidi Breuning, 1966 ?
Holzschuh(1990) a décrit 3 ssp. du Nepal. Bien qu'ayant le 3ème sternite rougeâtre (? ), Nupserha schmidi tambaensis Holz. ( holotype ici ) a la même taille et les fémurs antérieurs bicolores.


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Je ne comprends pas si cette espèce a la tête noire.

Edited by - Xavier on 14/11/2016 13:47:22
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Xaurus
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Posted - 15/11/2016 :  00:32:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
looks like Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Breuning, 1950 from N-India and Nepal, N. schmidi tambaensis is another one.
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Xavier
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Posted - 15/11/2016 :  08:56:42  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you.
I understand nothing about this species in Titan

.The author of Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis is...WEIGEL Andreas, 2006
.Breuning has described Nupserha flavipennis Breuning, 1950
. Nupserha pallidipennis (Redtenbacher, 1848) is another species (?)

so, there is no Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Breuning, 1950...

Where is the mistake ? I can't check anything because I have none of the papers (Breuning 1950 & 1960, Wielgel 2006)

Edited by - Xavier on 15/11/2016 09:53:30
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Xaurus
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Posted - 16/11/2016 :  01:19:47  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
do you know:
Holzschuh,C. (1986): Die Nupserha-Arten Nepals (Col.,Cerambycidae). Koleopt. Rdsch.58: 137- 154.
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 :  08:26:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes:


Holzschuh, 1986

but what about Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Weigel, 2006 on Titan database instead of your Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Breuning, 1950 above ?

My question was clear, no ? Is it an error in Titan database ??

Nupserha pallidipennis flavipennis Weigel, 2006 has been published in WEIGEL A., 2006. Checklist and Bibliography of Longhorn Beetles from Nepal (Insecta: Coleoptera: Cerambycidae). In Matthias Hartmann & J. Weipert (Editors). Biodiversität und Naturausstattung im Himalaya II. Verein der Freunde und Förderer des Naturkundemuseums Erfurt e. V.: 495-510.

Is it true or not ?

Edited by - Xavier on 16/11/2016 09:08:51
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Posted - 16/11/2016 :  08:58:38  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
N. flavipennis Breuning a été considérée un synonyme et ensuite (Holzschuh, 1990: 195) une sous-espèce de N. pallidipennis.

Il n'y a pas une N. flavipennis Weigel.
Weigel (2006) a mentionné cette combinaison, mais Holzschuh (1990: 195) l'avait fait avant lui (il manque une citation dans Titan).
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 :  09:12:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Là, je suis totalement perdu ( I am lost, help ! )

Bon quel est le nom valide ??
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 :  09:19:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

Holzschuh, 1990: 195
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/11/2016 :  10:22:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok, so it is an error in titan database forgetting Holzschuh (1990).

Edited by - Xavier on 16/11/2016 10:26:30
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Xaurus
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Posted - 17/11/2016 :  00:37:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
so it's clear, your spms belong to flavipennis !
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