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Francesco
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Posted - 01/02/2017 :  22:38:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote


For the Forum:
Trichocnemis spiculatus spiculatus LeConte, 1851
USA, Idaho, Boise co.
48 & 58 mm

Almost lighter than the specimens of the gallery here.

sebastes
Member Demonax

Russia
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Posted - 02/02/2017 :  03:30:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Not Ergatini?
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Francesco
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Posted - 02/02/2017 :  11:07:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I do not really know why someone divides Callipogonini.
Does someone know the reason?
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Capitaine
Scientific Collaborator

France
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Posted - 02/02/2017 :  14:24:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Oui, de mon coté j'ai conservé ce classement des 2 tribus vraiment très proches. A mon avis il faudrait remonter au travail de Lacordaire 1869 qui a fait cette séparation (Callopogonides/Ergatides) pour voir sur quels critères il avait basé cette discrimination. par contre j'ai regroupé ces deux tribus dans mes catalogues de priones..
Claude
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Francesco
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Posted - 02/02/2017 :  14:48:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
According to Lacordaire (1869: 56) Ergatini differ from Callipogonini in the hairless mouth pieces.
Please, verify if this corresponds to the truth or is sufficient to define a tribe.

The same author proposed Derobrachides, Orthomegides, Titanides and other strange groups...
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africaone
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Belgium
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Posted - 02/02/2017 :  15:17:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
what seems strange for me is not that 2 tribes exist but the genera combination of them ....
s'il n'y pas de solution c'est qu'il n'y a pas de problème ! akuna matata ....
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