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Sergi
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Posted - 11/05/2017 :  17:10:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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From Indonesia, Male: Moluccas, Wallir Island, Female: Lesser Sundas, West Timor Island.
Size: 29 mm

Edited by - Xavier on 12/05/2017 16:58:51

jplami
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Posted - 11/05/2017 :  19:30:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Je ne vois pas bien les scapes mais à première vue, je les aurai classé parmi les Pteropliini.
Après je ne sais pas...

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Xaurus
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  10:54:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Eczemotes spec.
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Xavier
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Posted - 12/05/2017 :  16:57:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, I think the same. ...Rhytiphora sp. after the last taxonomic change ?
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dryobius
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  02:48:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It should not be considered too offensive if we ignore some of the changes proposed by Slipinski and Escalona.
They would place every pteropliine in Australasia into one genus if they thought it would make their key work better.

OK. The tribe needs a serious revision that will take somebody a lifetime.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  04:41:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have some spms from this area too in my coll and can compare later, recently I'm not at home, we are collecting in Vietnam
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/05/2017 :  22:58:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
It is Eczemotes granulosa Breuning, 1938 in both cases.

Wallir is an isle in the group of the Tayandu Islands (Kai), where the species has been already recorded.
The label "Timor" is rather suspect.
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Sergi
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Posted - 14/05/2017 :  08:43:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Gracias a todos!!!
Si Francesco, a mi también me ha extrañado que ambos sexos presenten diferentes localidades viniendo juntos.
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Francesco
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Posted - 14/05/2017 :  18:23:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Esta especie ha sido descrita de la Nueva Guinea continental: Timor me parece demasiado lecho.
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jplami
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Posted - 14/05/2017 :  20:40:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think to Tanimbar islands also called Timur Laut (old name Timor Laut)

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Xaurus
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Posted - 15/05/2017 :  04:52:32  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
yes, its a good choice for this both spms !
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