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Capitaine
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Posted - 04/04/2018 :  14:39:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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I would't mind this one in the genus Paraleprodera but I don't find the species...
China / Yunnan / 24 mm

Claude

Edited by - Capitaine on 04/04/2018 14:40:09

MONO
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China
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Posted - 04/04/2018 :  16:45:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Indeed; Paraleprodera. sp.; the species was recorded in Yunnan in recent years.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  01:08:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
maybe Paraleprodera officinator (White, 1858) like here

Synonymy with P. stephana should be very questionable
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Capitaine
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  10:27:42  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you both, this species was first described by White in 1858 under the name Monohammus stephanus and just after Monohammus officinator (for specimens coming from the same area).
So I think that this synonymy should be valid.

Claude
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Xaurus
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  01:50:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think Paraleprodera stephanus fasciata Breuning 1943 is quite different vs. P. officinator, but I haven't seen any type of P. stephanus stephanus
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Xavier
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  08:02:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Drawings by Breuning (1943), if it can help...
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Capitaine
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  14:22:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Oups! c'est raté pour les deux !?
Apparemment P. officinator existe en temps que synonyme mais pas en temps qu'espèce (Titan base) dans ce genre...

Claude
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Xaurus
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Posted - 07/04/2018 :  01:30:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I don't understand, please in English !
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Capitaine
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Posted - 07/04/2018 :  14:47:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Dear Andreas, I just note that the Breuning's drawing doesn't fit with my specimen, and that if the species P. officinator is cited as synonym of P. stephanus, it is not the name of another taxon.

Claude
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Francesco
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Posted - 07/04/2018 :  15:00:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
A mon avis, l’espèce plus proche est Paraleprodera itzingeri Breuning, 1935 (ici).

Paraleprodera officinator has nothing to do with P. stephanus.
(which should be "stephanus" and not "stephana" as TitanBase refers... this name has no feminine variant! ).
These two species are well distinct and both perfectly valid: see Breuning, 1943: 268-269.

Please follow BioLib for Taxonomy!
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Capitaine
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Posted - 07/04/2018 :  18:52:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Oui cela correspond, merci Francesco.
Je vois d'ailleurs sur Biolib que le rapprochement "Monohammus Stephanus et M. officinator" (dans Titan) repose en fait sur une misidentification et un misspelling... dans le genre Leprodera !

Claude
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Xavier
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Posted - 07/04/2018 :  20:54:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

From Breuning (1943)
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MONO
Member Purpuricenus

China
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Posted - 10/04/2018 :  16:59:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I don't think it is Paraleprodera itzingeri; the difference is still obvious#65289;
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Capitaine
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Posted - 10/04/2018 :  17:53:25  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

Claude
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nasa
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China
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Posted - 16/10/2021 :  05:51:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Dear all, do you know who treated Paraleprodera officinator as junior synonym of P. stephanus?
Thanks!
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Francesco
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Posted - 16/10/2021 :  11:26:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Nobody.

The name is still valid on BioLib (here) since Mitra & al. (2017) used it as valid... though as Epicedia officinator.

Maybe Titanbase refers to a wrong identification by Lacordaire (1869), considered as erroneous already by Gemminger & Harold (1873)...
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