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Gerard
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Posted - 04/07/2018 :  22:26:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Chine, Zhejiang, Houyancun, taille 10 mm

Aucune idée pour cette Pterolophia.

Edited by - Xavier on 24/08/2018 16:26:05

Vitali
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Estonia
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  09:22:11  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
What about Pterolamia strandi Breuning, 1942?
Have a look at Iconography of Chinese Longicorn beetles.
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  10:33:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Interesting: the picture 1266 from Hua (2009) fits very well with the HP of Pterolamia villosa Breuning in Smithsonian Museum...which doesn't exist in Titan database or Biolib

Gerard's species is another one, but the genus Pterolamia is monospecific...

Edited by - Xavier on 24/08/2018 10:35:15
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Vitali
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  11:27:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
So, probably not that "monospecific" anymore
Or... the same photos, which you cited above, are shown here under the name Pterolamia strandi.

Edited by - Vitali on 24/08/2018 11:41:57
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  12:19:24  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Vitali

the same photos, which you cited above, are shown here under the name Pterolamia strandi.

A mystery... Maybe Smithsonian specimen has a wrong label ? I do not find any Pterolamia villosa published.

Anyway, Gerard specimen could be a new species to described...
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Vitali
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  14:38:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I am afraid there is more mess with data about the Smithsonian specimen. The collector is indicated as J. Herrera, who seems to be a botanist who collected in South America. The collecting place is Poroma with no other indications. There is one such place in Bolivia (agrees with J. Herrera), and another Poroma is in PNG.
In the description of P. strandi, Breuning wrote: "The type is without place of origin in the collection of Tippmann."
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  16:25:45  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Aïe, one more deep mystery...
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Xaurus
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  19:34:31  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Interesting, I have 3 spms from Zhejiang very similar or the same like Gerard one. At Larry's website is shown the same spm labeled as "villosa" at Smithonian website, maybe a mistake made by Breuning but otherwise why Larry called it "strandi", described is only one sps in this genus.
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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  19:49:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
My images were taken from the NMNH website many years before the book of types came out.

Steve Lingafelter's book of USNM types does not list this species.

Titan lists the type as being at NMNH (and says labeled as villosa).

Larry B.
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 24/08/2018 :  20:51:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you very much Larry for that clarification !
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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 11/08/2019 :  13:51:30  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
May be here another species of the same genus ?

Edited by - Xavier on 11/08/2019 13:51:51
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