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Dusan
Member Purpuricenus
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 Posted - 18/01/2019 : 09:20:23
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Laos, Khammouane prov., size 11 mm.
Can you help me with identification? |
Edited by - Xavier on 18/01/2019 17:29:27 |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 18/01/2019 : 17:00:26
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...just some light  |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 18/01/2019 : 17:19:05
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| It seems to be an Epepeotes from the group Epepeotes laosicus Breuning, 1965 / Epepeotes birmanus Breuning, 1969 / Epepeotes strandi (Breuning, 1935), close to this one and this one. |
Edited by - Xavier on 18/01/2019 17:29:08 |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 18/01/2019 : 20:54:40
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| Hmmm. Reminds me of a Eundia! the size alone makes me doubt Epepeotes. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 19/01/2019 : 00:25:53
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| What is an Eundia ? |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2019 : 14:48:06
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| E u n i d i a .... sorry for the typo |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 19/01/2019 : 16:13:18
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| Ok, but why an Eunidia ? Eunidiini species look totally different, with a long 2nd antennomera...I do not understand. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 19/01/2019 : 23:03:14
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I believe the scape of the antennae is not parallel to body.
Many Eunidia are rather drab species, too. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 19/01/2019 : 23:39:05
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With the scape with an open scar, it is a Monochamini/Lamiini for me:
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Edited by - Xavier on 19/01/2019 23:41:57 |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 20/01/2019 : 10:04:39
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| Is it possible to have a frontal view of the head? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 20/01/2019 : 10:11:20
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| My specimen here belongs to te same genus (or is the same species ?), with a frontal view of the head in the post. |
Edited by - Xavier on 20/01/2019 10:12:45 |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 20/01/2019 : 11:53:41
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Ah, oui.
With that trapezoidal forehead it should belong to the group of Agnia and relatives.
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 20/01/2019 : 21:47:45
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...but " Agnia" species haven't spines at pronotum.
What difference between this specimen and Epepeotes birmanus Breuning, 1969 here ? |
Edited by - Xavier on 20/01/2019 21:56:27 |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 20/01/2019 : 21:58:39
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I know, but this is the old tribe of "Agniini" which also includes:
Trichagnia Brn, Agniohammus Brn., Stegenodes Brn., Stegenus Pasc., Falsagnia Brn., Orsidis Pasc., Euthyastus Pasc., Pseudothyastus Brn., Acridocephala Chevr., Omocyrius Pasc., Hotarionomus Th., Achthophora Newm., Marmaroglypha Redt., Callipyrga Newm., Laelida Pasc., Combe Th., Pharsalia Th., Pericycos Brn., Triammatus Chevr., Myagrus Pasc., Peribasis Th., Parathyastus Aur., Xoes Pasc., etc.
C'est pour cela que continuer à parler de "Monochamini" n'a aucun sens. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 20/01/2019 : 22:37:19
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| Ok, so it is a Lamiini in the sense of the tribe on our forum ? |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 21/01/2019 : 18:16:31
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No, it is Lamiini in the sense of the international scientific community.
C.à.d. que soit claire: ce n'est pas que dans ce site on utilise une taxonomie particulière.
On utilise la taxonomie reconnue suite des révisions taxonomiques mondiales, pas l'idée bizarre de quelques entomologistes qui s'est amusé a introduire des changements taxonomiques sur la base de sa misérable collection et de son encore plus misérable culture scientifique.
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Laos: Epepeotes sp.
