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Xavier
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Posted - 28/05/2019 :  18:21:22  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Je relaie ici une question posée par G. Tavakilian ( base titan)

Au sujet des dates de publications des espèces décrites par Olivier, 1795 dans le tome 4 de l'Entomologie, Bousquet prétend que seule la partie allant jusqu'à la page 81 des "Capricornes" est de 1795, le reste étant publié en 1800. D'après Horn & Schenkling: page 899, l'Entomologie tome 4 a été publiée en 1795.

Que choisir ? Dans la faune canadienne de Bousquet & al, 2017, certaines dates ont déjà été modifiées.

I am relaying here a question asked by G. Tavakilian (titan base)

Regarding the publication dates of the species described by Olivier, 1795 in Volume 4 of Entomology, Bousquet claims that only the part up to page 81 of the "Capricorns" is 1795, the rest being published in 1800. According to Horn & Schenkling: page 899, Entomology Volume 4 was published in 1795.

What to choose? In the Canadian wildlife of Bousquet & al, 2017, some dates have already been modified.


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Francesco
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Posted - 28/05/2019 :  18:29:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Bousquet's paper is available here... it is rather convincing in my opinion...
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dryobius
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Posted - 28/05/2019 :  20:55:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
This may explain the question....

Bousquet, Y. 2018. The dating of the fourth volume of Guillaume-Antoine Olivier's "Entomologie, ou histoire nature/le des insectes." ZooKeys 734: 137- 148.
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Xavier
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Posted - 30/05/2019 :  08:22:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Tavakilian will change some dates.
Some species have to find a new name, too.

Edited by - Xavier on 30/05/2019 08:22:20
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dryobius
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Posted - 30/05/2019 :  13:22:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
One can appeal to ICZN to retain a name rather than replacing a name that everybody is familiar with. Yes, (micro)technically, some names are in violation of the code.
Furthermore, I ask that if the species is North American, then it should be left to workers in that region to fix the problem, since it is their literature and labels that is mostly disturbed.
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Xavier
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Posted - 30/05/2019 :  13:30:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bousquet is Canadian, so, no problem. .
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