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Xavier
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 Posted - 30/10/2011 : 13:51:13
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Encore un autre Chlorophorus du Nord-est du Laos; 10 mm et aucune piste... |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
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Posted - 14/07/2012 : 09:41:26
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Une espèce semblable à Chlorophorus mushanus Matsushita, 1931 de Formose... il pourrait être Chlorophorus douei (Chevrolat, 1863) du Vietnam, que Gressitt (1951) considérait une sous-espèce de la précédente.
Pourtant je n'ai pas encore trouvé sa description... |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 21:34:29
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J'ai relu la clef de Gressitt (1951), et j'arrive en effet à la même espèce.
Mais il faudrait effectivement lire la description de Chevrolat. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 21:40:12
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| ...mais en 1970, Gressitt écrit : Mushanus Matsushita was probably mistakenly reduced to a subspecies of douei (Chevr.) by me in 1951. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 30/07/2012 : 21:58:52
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Autre piste : la clef de Matsushita M. (1933) page 280 ?
Mais elle est, malheureusement pour moi, en allemand  |
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Francesco
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Luxembourg
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Posted - 31/07/2012 : 07:54:28
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mmmhm... avec la clé de Matsushita, C. douei semblerait une espèce proche de C. signaticollis, mais avec aussi une bande noire sur le pronotum. On comprend pourquoi on l'a confondu avec C. yayeyamensis.
Non, c'est pas lui... mais alors, il n'a rien a faire avec C. mushanus! |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 04/03/2013 : 16:44:02
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Cette espèce me semble plus proche de Chlorophorus fraternus Holzschuh, 1992 signalé du nord Thailande, même s'il manque les taches du pronotum.
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 07/03/2013 : 23:32:29
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I post a picture of Chlorophorus douei (Chevrolat, 1863) (= reductus Pic, 1922 syn. n., = laharae Gardner, 1942) from southern Yunnan, a widespread sps also in north Laos and Vietnam. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 08/03/2013 : 09:26:57
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Thank you Andreas for your picture. Nice for me to have it  .
So, it meens that we are wrong for this post
Could you check it, please ? |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 09/03/2013 : 01:57:01
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Hallo Xavier,
your spms (id as reductus syn.n., is right) is the same like my douei, the n. syn, will be published next time.
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Xavier
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Posted - 09/03/2013 : 08:54:50
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| Thank you Andreas for this information. |
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Francesco
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Posted - 24/08/2018 : 23:31:58
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Originally posted by Xaurus
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I post a picture of Chlorophorus douei (Chevrolat, 1863) (= reductus Pic, 1922 syn. n., = laharae Gardner, 1942) from southern Yunnan, a widespread sps also in north Laos and Vietnam.
This picture seems to have really little to do with the type of douei (here)... |
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Xavier
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 01:01:28
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Here some specimens called C. douei in my collection...but I haven't extract genitalia to compare them with each other.
The first specimen of this topic is not a C. douei, but something close to C. fraternus Holz. . |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 25/08/2018 : 12:13:44
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yes my spm looks a bit different from the type of C. douei, but its a male with different pronotum, the type is a female and with not good preserved tomentation also, otherwise C. douei is a widespread and variable species - generally without a study of the male genitals the differentiation of Clytini sps is very difficult first, later the recognization maybe in series is more easy.
So I cannot decide if all (without 1st) at Xavier's picture belong to C. douei
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Laos: Chlorophorus douei?
