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Gyula
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Posted - 06/11/2011 :  16:33:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


bonjour, Thailand, 22 mm
Eurybatus?

Gerard
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France
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Posted - 06/11/2011 :  16:55:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Eurybatus (Eurybatus) decempunctatus Westwood, 1848
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Francesco
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Posted - 12/11/2011 :  23:21:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Après la clé de Pierre et les tableaux de Robert, je dirais plus pachycornis.
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horshehden
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Posted - 13/11/2011 :  10:16:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Sorry, but it seems to me that all these characters are rather arbitrary...
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/11/2011 :  13:08:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Maybe... but it is the same concerning sibling species.
In some cases males are well different (e.G. Dynastinae, Lucanidae), in some other ones females are well different (Vesperus). In this case, it seems to me that large decempunctata males have really a notably enlarged pronotum with respect to other species.
However, it is necessary to compare long series and specimens having the same size... a thing the author (Takakuwa) really did.
Other thing is identifying specimens through pictures... not always easy.
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horshehden
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Posted - 13/11/2011 :  13:22:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
In such cases, there should be more or less firm distributional borders. So, is there something like that?
Otherwise, it is impossible to distinguish particular (ie. small) specimens.
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/11/2011 :  14:19:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I am afraid it is the second option...
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Gyula
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Posted - 13/11/2011 :  17:44:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
bonjour, Eurybatus pachycornis?
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Francesco
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Posted - 13/11/2011 :  18:01:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think so.
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