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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 10/08/2012 : 17:30:24
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18 mm. Hua Phan, nord Laos.
Un Falsanoplistes (Cerambycinae, Trachyderini). Il ne s'agit pas de Falsanoplistes antennarius Holzschuh, 2010 qui a les épaules plus relevées et les épines du thorax, qui est noir, plus obtuses. Pas d'espèce pour le Laos dans le Gressitt (1970). Falsanoplistes guerryi Pic, 1915 est mentionné de la faune chinoise (Gressitt, 1951) ... mais je ne trouve pas sa description. |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
424 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2012 : 19:06:36
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Interesting species, but definitely not Falsanoplistes. All (at least) three species of this genera are "almost" identical (Yunnan & Taiwan & Laos). I collected F. guerryi in NW yunnan. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2012 : 20:26:36
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The only picture I've got (from Falsanoplistes antennarius Holzschuh, 2010 ) shows quite similar antenna but longer body. So,I think that my species belongs to the same tribe, but then... |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
424 Posts |
Posted - 10/08/2012 : 21:20:19
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It should be Purpuricenini, but definitely not Falsanoplistes. |
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Bi
Member Demonax
China
59 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 13:01:00
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It should be Parabunothorax sp. Only one known species from the genus |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 13:09:11
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Thanks a lot. The only species seems to be Parabunothorax rubripennis Pu, 1991 ; Does anyone have a description of it ? |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
424 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 13:44:16
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Anyway, I'm afraid that the description is in Chinese... |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 13:55:53
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If you have it, I 've got the way to translate it |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
424 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 14:09:44
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Unfortunately, I do not have it in my disposal. Though, most of them would be more than essential for me (Arhopalus, Carilia-Gaurotes-Rhondia, Necydalis, Thranius, Cleomenes, Callidium, etc.). |
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Bi
Member Demonax
China
59 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 14:55:48
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Here is the original description. We can find your specimen obviously different from the known species by 3th to 7th antennal segments digitated instead of 3th-6th. But may be the sexual dimorphism (like Falsanoplistes). Your specimen is female, and the type is a male. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 15:40:34
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Thanks a lot for this paper ! Hard to say if it's or not the same species. By °%***°, I lost the 7th antennal segment as you can see on last picture (!!). The side of thorax seems different, with an anterior obtuse spine added. For the rest, all the structure is the same (punctuation, 3 lines on back, etc). The black area on the pronotum, as showed on your paper, could be variable for such red-orange species. Tell me , please, your opinion ... |
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Bi
Member Demonax
China
59 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 17:21:26
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For me, they are more likely to be the same species. The different shape of the lateral margin of pronotum is still sexual dimorphism. (According to the figure of Falsanoplistes antennarius Holzschuh, 2010. male-rounded and female-sharp.) In any case, the old hand-drawing maybe not accurate, based on past experience. To examine the type specimen in IZAS Beijing is better. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 17:30:01
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Thanks for these precisions ! IZAS Beijing is a little far for me; I will better try to collect more specimens next year, integer and from both sex. I keep Parabunothorax rubripennis Pu, 1991. Thanks to everybody. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 17:56:31
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Finally, I don't know what thinking.... Here the picture of Falsanoplistes antennarius Holzschuh, 2010. The structure of pronotum is closer to my specimen than Parabunothorax rubripennis; we can see that both sex has got 2 obtuse spines, and I don't understand why the drawer hasn't represented it, if it exist… |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
424 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2012 : 22:24:58
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IZAS in Beijing is currently closed for holidays so that you have a few days to get there if you think it is too far for you Anyway, complete antenna would be essential as well as male and female. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12289 Posts |
Posted - 12/08/2012 : 10:52:27
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Good new for me, so I've got enough time to go to Beijing |
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