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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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 Posted - 12/08/2012 : 11:22:14
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20 mm (2 femelles), 15 mm (1 mâle).
Hua Phan, nord Laos.
Peut-être Necydalis concolor Niisato & Ohbayashi, 2004 ? |
Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2016 00:29:33 |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 28/08/2012 : 22:51:32
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| Why do you think so? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12002 Posts |
Posted - 28/08/2012 : 23:28:00
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| I found a picture of it at an insect dealer, coming from Laos too ): . I've got no key to go farther... |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 29/08/2012 : 00:40:01
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Probably, you mean az insect. There are some mistakes, as usually.
My knowledge about Necydalis is very poor, but in this case, I guess, the correct name should be Necydalis (Necydalisca) concolor Niisato & Ohbayashi, 2004.
Necydalisca should have:
1. long, flattend elytra;
2. broad and hardly convex abdomen;
3. slender tarsi.
You can check it. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 29/08/2012 : 09:46:12
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| You're right , it's this dealer. Your 3 points work for my species, but is it enough to be sure of its name ? |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 29/08/2012 : 14:42:42
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There is no other Necydalisca in the region.
But looking at the photo it does not seem to me that the elytra are long (longer than in Necydalis) and tarsi slend. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 29/08/2012 : 18:58:30
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| I don't no what to say...impossible for me to compare without more material. Thanks Tom. |
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Petr Viktora
Member Nathrius
Czech Republic
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 13:19:26
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| Necydalis concolor Niisato et Ohbayashi, 2004 |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 15:49:12
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| Yes, this is the only black species described from the area...but I do not understand why it is a member of Necydalisca (it seems to me that on the photo, elytra are relatively short and tarsi realtively thick). |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 19:22:42
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| Thanks a lot Petr Viktora for the confirmation. |
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horshehden
Member Purpuricenus
Czech Republic
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Posted - 04/09/2012 : 19:35:53
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I guess that the specimen of the dealer you used as a benchmark to find the name was determined by Petr, so there is no surprise.
The question is why it was recorded as Necydalisca... |
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Petr Viktora
Member Nathrius
Czech Republic
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Posted - 05/09/2012 : 16:22:26
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Hi Tom, I have orig. descriptions and it is really N. concolor.
Why is included in the subgenus Necydalisca am unable to judge. |
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Laos: Necydalis concolor
