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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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 Posted - 19/09/2012 : 18:12:56
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On the picture :
1. species coming from Laos (mine's). 21 mm.
2. picture of Gressitt (1970), fig 14d named Phelipara (s.st.) marmorata page 373 & 374. size 13 to 18 mm
3. holotype of Pothyne rufovittata Breuning, from Smithsonian |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 19/09/2012 : 19:10:44
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Here the problems are multifarious.
The type (or the specimen supposed as such) does not seem to be a Pothyne (here we all agree).
Secondly, it does not correspond to the original description.
In fact the text marked in yellow states: "Each elytron with 7 reddish-ochre yellow longitudinal bands, which are little evident on the basal part, entire in the middle, partially interrupted also after the middle, and little visible on the apical part."
P. submarmorata is my mistake, I'd write P. marmorata...  |
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Petr Viktora
Member Nathrius
Czech Republic
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Posted - 19/09/2012 : 19:48:36
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On the middle picture sure is not Phelipara marmorata.
On that we agree.
Steven Lingafelter can answer questions about photo from the Smithsonian Institution.
Detective investigation can continue. Petr |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9416 Posts |
Posted - 19/09/2012 : 20:07:49
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I agree, Petr.
The other interesting fact is that the holotype of Paranandra laosensis also belongs to the collection Tippmann (and to the Smitsonian as well)...
Here the pre-median light band is surely absent.
May it be the holotype of Potyne submarmorata? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 19/09/2012 : 20:38:01
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I try to follow... Why, Petr, are you sure that the middle picture is not Phelipara marmorata, and, in this case, what differences do you see between this middle picture and the two others specimen ?
It could be interesting to have the original description of P. marmorata, to purchase our investigation. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
12062 Posts |
Posted - 19/09/2012 : 20:49:38
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Here a picture from the forum (Gérard Chemin) of Phelipara marmorata.
None of the 3 specimens are Phelipara marmorata. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
9416 Posts |
Posted - 19/09/2012 : 20:58:58
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Phelipara marmorata was described in Longicornia Malayana.
The main difference I find is that the whitish part is basal (or sub-basal?) in this species, pre-median in your one (= Paranandra laosensis?), and absent in Potyne submarmorata. |
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woshixiao
Member Purpuricenus
China
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Posted - 08/05/2019 : 10:45:58
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I have two specimens from Hubei China,I still don't understand. |
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Laos, Phelipara?
