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Xaurus Posted - 24/01/2023 : 17:06:34


I got this spm (size incl. mandibles 45 mm) in loan from BM, I have no idea about the species coming from Papua ?? maybe with a wrong label, but there are some other species with the same location
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Capitaine Posted - 18/09/2023 : 18:41:26
To return to this post, it seems implausible that two years apart Newman would have described two different species from identical specimens, considering the anatomical specificity of this species.
The specimen presented here is indeed C. oedipus, so either the label does not correspond to the origin, or the taxon "Pithanotes" really does present morphological differences.... We should be able to see the type at the BMNH.

Riana Posted - 25/01/2023 : 19:25:02
What a weird name.....
Persuasive false....
was Newman trying to say something ????????
Xavier Posted - 25/01/2023 : 07:08:30
Curiously, there is a Pithanotes falsus Newman, 1840
collected in Australia (= Nova Hollandia) at BMNH museum which is a synonym of Cacosceles oedipus Newman, 1838. Not so far from Papua.
Xaurus Posted - 25/01/2023 : 00:52:30
Thanks a lot for the really fast reply, from Papua I've never seen such a species
It is right G.P. Moore collected in the Toricelli Mts., there are a couple of others species from this location, all belong to this area, so maybe introduced or more probably a wrong label.
Remarkable: this label has two pin holes (see near the middle). I checked the other material all with the only original pin hole.
Francesco Posted - 24/01/2023 : 21:53:31
It should be
"Papua New Guinea, Sandaun Province, Torricelli Mountains".
Moore collected certainly in New Guinea in 1939.
However, the specimen is a male of Cacosceles oedipus Newman, 1838
Xavier Posted - 24/01/2023 : 18:26:17
I still do not know where is Torecella.
Vitali Posted - 24/01/2023 : 17:49:29
Funny, but Google search produces new Nitidulidae and Reduviidae species with exactly(!) the same locality data.
Xavier Posted - 24/01/2023 : 17:40:09
It looks like a Cacosceles (Cacoscelini, Prioninae), an african species. So, I think the label is not related to "Papua" , but Guinée, or Guinée-Bissau, or Guinée équatoriale (Africa).
But I do not find any Torecella Mt. in Africa.

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