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| Bennyboymothman |
Posted - 11/02/2018 : 20:03:29
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Moechotypa sp. ?
Still can't find this one.
Data: 28-02-14 - Mt Trus Madi - Keningau District - Sabah - North Borneo - Malaysia
Thanks
Ben |
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| Bennyboymothman |
Posted - 12/11/2022 : 16:51:08
The side of the pronotum is different to your specimen. I had another look today. |
| dryobius |
Posted - 02/03/2018 : 19:31:48
Of course, everyone can be their own judge. Does the side of the pronotum look identical? (slightly better photo of N. albipennis posted here) Could Breuning have described a species in a new genus in the wrong tribe? ( of course ) I have two specimens identical in all features, colors and size to Ben's specimens. While there are a couple of remarkable similarities in the patterns of the elytra, the apparent difference in the lateral side of the pronotum, the difference in color, and the claws has me almost totally convinced that these species are different.
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| dryobius |
Posted - 02/03/2018 : 19:04:02
The photo does not clearly show the claws. I have mine in front of my eyes!! DIVARICATE! |
| Francesco |
Posted - 02/03/2018 : 17:40:46
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Originally posted by dryobius
Niphoropica albipennis is much smaller I believe.
Niphoropica does not have the large protuberance on the side of the pronotum.
1. Maybe it is better to read descriptions before judging  :
Breuning, 1964: 67
2. The position of the head is innatural. This specimen does not overpass 18 mm.
3. Pteropliini, Apomecynini and this species have normal (divergent) claws.
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| dryobius |
Posted - 02/03/2018 : 17:01:32
You apparently missed my comment about the tarsal claws and the lateral pronotal tubercles. Pteropliini have divergent claws, whereas this species has claws that are divaricate.
http://cerambycids.com/longicornid/default.asp?a=resources&id=claws |
| Bennyboymothman |
Posted - 02/03/2018 : 00:07:51
20mm exactly. I believe my specimen appears to be a female also.
I am pretty sure it fits in with my other Moechotypa species with it's general jizz and characteristics.
It has a wide scape and is rather bumpy along the top of the scape as well.
I guess it needs looking at further but I am unable to at the moment with limited time. |
| Francesco |
Posted - 01/03/2018 : 21:29:02
According to the description, Niphoropica albipennis is 17 mm long, not so far from this species.
The pattern is too particular to be a different species. |
| dryobius |
Posted - 01/03/2018 : 18:59:43
Niphoropica albipennis is much smaller I believe.
Yes, there is some similarity.
Niphoropica does not have the large protuberance on the side of the pronotum. It's pronotum is reddish-brown... not black.
This new Moechotypa is about 20-21mm. |
| Max |
Posted - 01/03/2018 : 18:35:42
If it's really paratypus here so, it is or something very close. |
| dryobius |
Posted - 28/02/2018 : 06:03:30
The photo by Ben, is clearly, in my opinion, a Moechotypa. Moechotypa generally have very rough or rugged sculpturing on the pronotum. The two species in Borneo which we are familiar with (M. thoracica & M. marmorea) have quite different sculpturing on the pronotum.
Note that Ben's specimen (and two that I have) has a swollen scape, somewhat like M. attenuata from Vietnam. Mimoniphona does not have this feature.
The antennae of Ben's specimen appears to be about the same length as my specimens, so perhaps they are all females. The antennae on my specimens nearly attain the apex of the elytra when straightened out.
I don't know the length of Ben's specimen, but mine are the same length as M. marmorea. Sometimes, Pteropliini get this large, and sometimes they even have long antennae, but generally not.
Finally, the tarsal claws are of a form like other Moechotypa, and not Pteropliini. |
| Xaurus |
Posted - 25/02/2018 : 02:28:00
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maybe look at Mimoniphona fasciculata spm from India  acc the type picture: https://apps2.cdfa.ca.gov/publicApps/plant/bycidDB/wdetails.asp?id=36610&w=o |
| Xavier |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 11:41:30
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Originally posted by Beckey
It seems to be Pteropliini for me.
I have the same doubt. Something close to Rhytiphora genus ? |
| Beckey |
Posted - 24/02/2018 : 08:52:00
It seems to be Pteropliini for me. |
| Bennyboymothman |
Posted - 13/02/2018 : 20:04:52
Agreed, I have no known species like this from my collecting years and from sources that have provided me with specimens of this genus.
I'd be interested to see your specimens! |
| Xavier |
Posted - 13/02/2018 : 13:16:30
So, you both, should write a paper to describe this species. |
