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nasa
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China
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Posted - 03/09/2014 :  14:53:03  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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from Yunnan, China.
close to Oplatocera (Epioplatocera) mandibulata Miwa & Mitono, 1935

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Gerard
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France
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Posted - 03/09/2014 :  17:31:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello for me is Oplatocera (Epioplatocera) oberthuri Gahan, 1906.
Oplatocera (Epioplatocera) mandibulata is endemic to Taiwan.
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nasa
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China
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Posted - 04/09/2014 :  12:59:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gerard

Hello for me is Oplatocera (Epioplatocera) oberthuri Gahan, 1906.
Oplatocera (Epioplatocera) mandibulata is endemic to Taiwan.


Gerard, I don't think so. Oplatocera (Epioplatocera) oberthuri only has a big black spot on pronotum.
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Gerard
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Posted - 04/09/2014 :  18:04:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello Nasa.
Look here you will find the type.
There are two macules on the thorax.



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Here are the beasts of the MNHN
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nasa
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China
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Posted - 05/09/2014 :  10:01:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Gerard, thanks. I got the wrong determination from Hua et al.(2009).


Edited by - nasa on 05/09/2014 10:01:46
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Pierre
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Switzerland
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Posted - 02/09/2024 :  18:31:20  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hello Nasa, your specimen is certainly NOT oberthuri Gahan. I agree with your diagnosis by making a connexion with mandibulata Miwa & Mitono!
As a fact, O. (Epioplatocera) mandibulata is not as endemic as usually admitted. I have on my desk series of specimen from Southern China like yours, but also from Vietnam and Laos, all belonging to this same item
I am actually studying the genus and it could turn out to be a subspecies of mandibulata - to be confirmed.
Do you have more or only this single female? I would be interested in knowing the exact data in order to include them in my study, please contact me: pierre.haller@greenmail.ch

Edited by - Pierre on 02/09/2024 21:06:06
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Xaurus
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Germany
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  01:10:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I have a male (?) from Nepal (behind pin = Pahud), 31mm, det. as oberthuri


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Pierre
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  07:18:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Hmmm... thank you Andreas!! Interesting specimen collected in the future.
I can not read the letters behind the pin ...
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Xaurus
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  11:18:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
noch 1 Ex. aus West-Nepal von Deinem Landsmann (Christian Monnerat) am Licht gesammelt, zu unserer gemeinsamen Reise 2017:
NEPAL - Mahakali/Darchula vic. Deuli village, 2400m, N29°48'45", E80°47'0", 27.-29.VI.2017, by light leg. C.Monnerat et al., KL NEP17-15


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Xaurus
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  11:21:01  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xaurus

I have a male (?) from Nepal (behind pin = Pahud), 31mm, det. as oberthuri, I got this spm from my nepalese friend Prem, the date is acc the buddist calendar (2058?) .


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Xavier
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France
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  15:15:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Mes spécimens du Laos. Sans doute rien d'intéressant pour toi, Pierre ?
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Pierre
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  17:56:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Xaurus

quote:
Originally posted by Xaurus

I have a male (?) from Nepal (behind pin = Pahud), 31mm, det. as oberthuri, I got this spm from my nepalese friend Prem, the date is acc the buddist calendar (2058?) .

The difference between the buddhist and gregorian calendar is 543 years. So logically your beetle would have been collected in 1515...


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Pierre
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Posted - 15/09/2024 :  17:58:54  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xaurus

noch 1 Ex. aus West-Nepal von Deinem Landsmann (Christian Monnerat) am Licht gesammelt, zu unserer gemeinsamen Reise 2017:
NEPAL - Mahakali/Darchula vic. Deuli village, 2400m, N29°48'45", E80°47'0", 27.-29.VI.2017, by light leg. C.Monnerat et al., KL NEP17-15


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Excellent. An authentic oberthuri. Thank you !!
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