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Xavier
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Posted - 18/12/2012 : 22:55:35
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Je poste ici un Prothemini (sp1) du nord Laos (Hua Phan).
Les déterminations sur le forum d'autres spécimens de Prothemini de l'Asie du sud-est me laissant un sérieux doute, je les ai rassemblés sur une seule planche.
Pour mémoire : http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=801&SearchTerms=prothema Ce qui donnait : - sp 2 : Prothema coomani ? - sp 3 : Prothema signata ? - sp 4 : Prothema coomani ? ( = même espèce que celle représentée dans le livre de Gressit-1970, sous le nom de P. signata)
Pour ma part, je vois ici 4 espèces différentes...Ou des variétés ?? ![](images/icon_smile_tongue.gif) |
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Xavier
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Posted - 02/01/2013 : 18:06:12
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![](../public/imgforum/Xavier/2013121817_Prothemaastutum.jpg) Il me semble que l'espèce n°1 est une femelle de Prothema astutum Holzschuh, 2011 décrite de Chine, Yunnan . Je t'envoie la description en allemand, Francesco . |
Edited by - Xavier on 02/01/2013 18:31:03 |
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znort
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Posted - 05/01/2013 : 11:30:51
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Il y a des similitudes mais aussi des divergences au niveau de la tache médiane. Sur la photo de la publi de holzschuh on a l'impression que l'éperon sur les tibias postérieurs est bifide. |
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Xavier
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Posted - 05/01/2013 : 11:53:11
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Pas de différence pour les éperons : ils sont bien bifides, avec l'un plus court que l'autre. Attendons une traduction de la description. |
Edited by - Xavier on 05/01/2013 12:10:54 |
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Posted - 05/01/2013 : 14:09:16
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I add C.Holzschuh's picture to compare. It is true, znort: the last elytra band seems a little bit different. Sides of the pronotum are not the same, too...
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Edited by - Xavier on 05/01/2013 14:12:43 |
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cerambyphil
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Posted - 24/02/2018 : 23:54:12
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I think number 1 is Prothema coomani Pic, 1934 female. Here is the picture from Holzschuh in "Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 28 page 76" :
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Edited by - cerambyphil on 25/02/2018 00:10:05 |
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cerambyphil
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Posted - 25/02/2018 : 00:18:35
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Number 4 must be Prothema x-fasciatum Hozschuh, 2017 pair. Here is the picture from Holzschuh in "Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 28 page 76" :
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cerambyphil
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Posted - 25/02/2018 : 00:24:26
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Number 2 must be Prothema vulgare Holzschuh, 2017 male. Here is the picture from Holzschuh in "Les Cahiers Magellanes NS 28 page 76" :
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For number 3, I'm agree with the former identification.![](images/icon_smile_wink.gif) |
Edited by - cerambyphil on 25/02/2018 01:07:54 |
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Xavier
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Posted - 25/02/2018 : 09:47:02
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already done here and here. |
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