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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  03:43:35  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Sabah, 10 mm.
Is this a species of Ostedes?

Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2016 17:39:48

Xavier
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  09:14:07  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think it is Ostedes pauperata Pascoe, 1859 by seeing the holotype picture from MNHN of Ostedes basilana Pic, 1944 which is a synonym.
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dryobius
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  14:02:53  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I don't think the synonymy is correct if the illustrated specimen is O. basilana Pic. For that matter, the type of O. pauperata is stated as "Aru" and the type of basilana is Basilan (Philippines). I have seen many Ostedes from Sabah which I have identified as O. pauperata and they all quite similar.

The picture posted by Larry looks like another species I have from Sabah. I have a total of 5 or 6 species of Ostedes from Sabah (unidentified), as well as O. pauperata, O. variegata, and O. brunneovariegata.

I have not seen types of O. borneana, griseoapicaloides, or laterifusca.

O. pauperata may occur in many areas ( Aru, Philippines, Borneo)... I don't know. The genus has only been studied by Breuning, and I think there are possibly mistakes with his work, and possibly new species in Borneo.
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Xavier
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  14:10:40  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, you might be right. Really, I do not know : I have only seen my bad picture from MNHN...
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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  17:31:37  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys,

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dryobius
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  18:55:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Here is a better match. This is the type of O. griseoapicaloides Breuning, 1977 from MNHN.

[ Actually we should say: O. griseoapicalis Breuning, 1969 [ nec Pic, 1944 ] ]

I must thank a member of our board for providing me with this photo. I normally do not post other people's photographs without their permission, but I hope he understands that it is extremely useful in this case.


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Larry Bezark
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Posted - 22/11/2015 :  19:00:23  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks Dan

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Xavier
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Posted - 24/10/2019 :  09:33:36  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dryobius

I don't think the synonymy is correct if the illustrated specimen is O. basilana Pic. For that matter, the type of O. pauperata is stated as "Aru" and the type of basilana is Basilan (Philippines).



For that matter, you are probably right: holotype picture of Ostedes basilana Pic, 1944 (here) do not fit with Ostedes pauperata Pascoe, 1859 (HT BMNH Moluques, Aru), which is a species with longer elytra, with apex different.
I think that the synonymy O. basilana / O.pauperata is wrong.

I add pictures of Ostedes basilana Pic, 1944 from Philippines in a new topic.

Edited by - Xavier on 24/10/2019 09:38:22
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