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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
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 Posted - 18/02/2017 : 23:24:32
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Indonesia, Buru Isl (fake locality), 42 mm, no date |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 19/02/2017 : 10:20:00
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Look for Anhammus. |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 19/02/2017 : 12:37:30
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Sure, it's an Anhammus. None are known from Buru.
I have received material from Indonesian dealers who told me specimens were from E. Kalimantan, when in reality they were species indigenous to Sulawesi.
"Fake News" may have struck again. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
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Posted - 19/02/2017 : 13:12:34
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I thought the same. |
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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 19/02/2017 : 16:49:04
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What advantage is there to listing a wrong locations?
Seems rather strange unless they just forget where they are from. |
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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 19/02/2017 : 16:52:49
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Appears to be A. d. dalenii Guerin 1844 but that is found on Kalimantan.
Not sure what to do with the specimen now. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 19/02/2017 : 17:46:57
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Originally posted by BillTyson
What advantage is there to listing a wrong locations?
Seems rather strange unless they just forget where they are from.
I think you are right, it is not a matter of "advantage" : when sellers use to buy a lot of specimens from all over the world, they may have some problems to put all of them in good blisters...and they do not really care about that. |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 20/02/2017 : 00:39:20
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| the only reasonable throw it away and cancel the cooperation with the dealer ! |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 20/02/2017 : 03:04:43
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Anhammus dalenii borneensis pictured here...
the nominate subspecies is from Java
one subspecies each from Sumatra, Borneo and the Malay Peninsula
I don't know which one is closest to your beetle.
In my opinion, the chance that this specimen is from Buru is extremely small.
I have thrown specimens into the garbage can at times. Or I just put a label on the specimen like this "???" |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 20/02/2017 : 09:21:50
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Is it time to start a " black list " of insect dealers ?
Full name of this species is Anhammus dalenii borneensis de Jong, 1942 |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 20/02/2017 : 14:46:50
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I meant to post this picture with my previous post.... ( Late at night and sleepy ).
I don't know which subspecies Bill has. ??? I have not seen A. dalenii from Sumatra or Java.
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BillTyson
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 21/02/2017 : 22:55:39
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Have contacted the seller and got the standard reply...I am at the mercy of my suppliers.
That is true so how can you blame the seller. They should blacklist their supplier. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
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Posted - 25/02/2017 : 08:19:39
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Originally posted by dryobius
None are known from Buru.
I have received material from Indonesian dealers who told me specimens were from E. Kalimantan, when in reality they were species indigenous to Sulawesi.
I also think to Apriona minettii Jiroux, 2011, described from a unique exemplar from Morotai (North Moluccas) and nearly identical to Apriona irma Kriesche, 1919 from Sumatra and West Java...
As those from Kalimantan, they are probably materials labelled as "Indonesia" and then "better" localised by subsequent dealers. |
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Indonesia: Anhammus dalenii borneensis
