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Gerard
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Posted - 03/06/2017 :  19:26:58  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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MALAISIE, Ile de Borneo, Sabah, Trus Madi, taille 15 mm

Edited by - Xavier on 16/08/2018 17:33:11

Xavier
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Posted - 03/06/2017 :  19:32:09  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Scape de Mesosini, non ? Clyzomedus sp. ?

Edited by - Xavier on 03/06/2017 19:55:03
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dryobius
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  04:39:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yamasako is working on this group. He has borrowed my material so I can't say much more right now. This species is maybe new. You should check with him.
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jplami
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  07:33:05  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
I think to Metacoptops fasciculata (Aurivillius, 1911)

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Xavier
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  07:53:39  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jplami

I think to Metacoptops fasciculata (Aurivillius, 1911)

Penses-tu qu'il s'agit de la même espèce ici ?

Dans ce post, Dan explique que Yamasako travaille sur des nouvelles espèces de Borneo, mais j'ai du mal à comprendre laquelle est Metacoptops fasciculata (Aurivillius, 1911). L'espèce de Gérard correspond à la 4ème photo.

Edited by - Xavier on 04/06/2017 07:59:32
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jplami
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  08:34:59  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit jplami's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Dans le post mentionné, les photos illustrent potentiellement 5 espèces différentes voire 2 genres.

Je me suis rapporté à une photo de Dan qui correspond à la bestiole de Gérard.
Mais je n'ai pas de certitude, ne connaissant pas le type de M fasciculata, par ailleurs génotype.

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Xavier
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  08:42:04  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok avec toi; je faisais référence à la 4ème photographie de la réponse de Dan.
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Gerard
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  08:46:13  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Qui pourrais nous faire une photo du type a Stockholm ?


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Merci on avance.

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dryobius
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Posted - 04/06/2017 :  13:40:52  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
In 2011, I sent almost all of Bornean Mesosini to Yamasako. He said, at that time, that there were 3 species of Metacoptops, .. M. fasciculata and 2 new species. His work is progressing, so perhaps in another year or two there will be a revision.
There are also many other new Mesosini from Borneo which will be described, however so many species are closely related to species from Sumatra and West Malaysia. It is obviously difficult to obtain enough material for study.

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Francesco
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Posted - 06/05/2018 :  08:24:27  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Francesco's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Au présent, l'identification de Jean-Philippe me semble plus que raisonnable.
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Gerard
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Posted - 06/05/2018 :  08:57:51  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Merci je garde ce nom
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/08/2018 :  16:55:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Je pense qu'il s'agit d'une femelle (jusqu'ici inconnue) de Metacoptops nagaii Yamasako & Heffern, 2018.
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dryobius
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Posted - 16/08/2018 :  17:14:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I sent two examples of this species (both females) to Yamasako in 2011. Since he did not include them as paratypes of Metcoptops nagaii, then he obviously does not consider them to be that species. Perhaps, he would like to discover a male before describing it. I don't know. It would not hurt to ask him... he is very helpful in answering questions about this tribe.
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Xavier
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Posted - 16/08/2018 :  17:32:46  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Ok, but it shoudn't be a M. fasciculata ?
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dryobius
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Posted - 17/08/2018 :  00:31:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It is not M. fasciculata.
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Gerard
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Posted - 19/05/2022 :  10:14:55  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Bonjour quelqu'un a une photo de femelle de Metacoptops nagaii Yamasako & Heffern, 2018
Cette bête est surement une femelle de cette espèce, dans la description je ne vois pas de femelle dans la série.
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