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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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 Posted - 04/07/2017 : 22:37:02
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Spinocentruopsis papuanus?
Male 25 mm
Female 32 mm
Xaurus, do you think they are determined correctly? |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 09:12:42
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This is the original drawing.
However, the exact (and complete) name is Spinocentruropsis papuanus Minet, 1987 and this species belongs to Morimopsini not to Phrissomini. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 09:30:57
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Strange, this species is described in BREUNING S., 1979. Descriptions de nouveaux genres et espèces de Lamiinae (Col., Cerambycidae). Bulletin de la Société Entomologique de Mulhouse [janvier-mars 1979]: 13-15.
I have the paper.
So, I do not understand what is the publication by MINET Gérard J., 1987. Un nouveau genre, une nouvelle espèce de longicorne : Spinocentruropsis papuanus (Coleoptera, Cerambycidae Lamiinae). Bulletin de la Société Sciences Nat, Venette 55: 21. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 10:31:08
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BREUNING, 1979. Descriptions de nouveaux genres et espèces de Lamiinae (Col., Cerambycidae). Bulletin de la Société Entomologique de Mulhouse, page 15. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
Luxembourg
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 17:40:38
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MINET G. J., 1987 - Un nouveau genre, une nouvelle espèce de longicorne : Spinocentruropsis papuanus (Coleoptera, Cerambycidae Lamiinae) - Bulletin de la Société Sciences Nat, Venette 55: 21-23.
According to Minet, this name was in litteris... |
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 17:56:30
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I cannot read the article by Minet.... it is too small. Did he designate a type? Did he provide any data? What kind of junk gets published in Sciences Nat?
Did Minet describe the same specimen that Breuning described?  |
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Robert
Member Rosenbergia
Canada
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 18:15:28
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| Dan, in order to read Minet's article, right-click it and select "view image". |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 10/07/2017 : 18:43:31
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At the end of his "paper", Minet explain that he found this species in Monguillon's collection,and he used notes written by Breuning. In honor of Breuning, He kept Breuning's name.
So, because it is the same holotype specimen, there is no problem : Minet's paper is just useless.
In Titan database, the right name is Spinocentruropsis papuanus Breuning, 1979. |
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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Posted - 12/07/2017 : 18:41:43
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First: Minet described the same spm again, I think he did know Breuning's description and sought it was an in litt name
2nd: Dan your spms belong to Protilemoides buergersi Kriesche, 1923, S. papuanus has no elytral extensions in the last third at least acc the drawing, I haven't seen the type (acc Titanbase coll Mauguillon where is this ?)
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Papua New Guinea: Protilemoides buergersi
