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nasa
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Posted - 14/12/2017 :  12:43:28  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote

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Pterolophia from Trus Madi, Sabah, Borneo.
Thanks!

Edited by - Xavier on 14/12/2017 17:48:41

dryobius
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Posted - 14/12/2017 :  12:51:06  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thylactomimus albolateralis Breuning, 1959
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nasa
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Posted - 14/12/2017 :  13:25:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks, Dan!
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dryobius
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Posted - 14/12/2017 :  15:16:14  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I did not check my material closely. I apologize.

This is a Thylactomimus.... I think photos of this species have been posted before.

But it is not albolaterialis which is known from Sabah and West Malaysia.

It is an undescribed species, which I have only seen from Sabah so far. Also, it is not rare. I have seen 10 - 20 specimens over the last 20 years.
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nasa
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Posted - 15/12/2017 :  17:04:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thanks again, Dan!
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Xavier
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Posted - 15/12/2017 :  18:06:41  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
There is only one species in the genus; but Thylactomimus albolateralis Breuning, 1959 talks about a species white on lateral sides.
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Xavier
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Posted - 15/12/2017 :  18:47:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
To compare with specimens here, here and there.

Edited by - Xavier on 15/12/2017 18:50:04
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Gontran
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Posted - 15/12/2017 :  19:50:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Just to share: Thylactomimus albolateralis Breuning, 1959



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Xaurus
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Posted - 06/12/2023 :  13:00:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
maybe all this spms belong to T. albolateralis:
here a female 19mm and a male 11mm from Borneo, females are larger and the antennae thinner, maybe the white toment is very sensitive and often rubbed off.


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Gontran
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Posted - 07/12/2023 :  15:50:56  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Just to compare again. All from Borneo, Sabah, Trus Madi. Is it correct ? Two species.



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Xaurus
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Posted - 08/12/2023 :  00:51:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Your both albolateralis spms are male and female, or ?
I'm not yet convinced this are two species , even though the elytral pattern and the apex are rather different.

Edited by - Xaurus on 08/12/2023 00:51:50
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dryobius
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Posted - 08/12/2023 :  13:14:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I'm sure they are two different species. I have a fair number of specimens of the "new" one. The elytral pattern is completely different, and antennae color. Both species have been collected in the same area, and there is no intermediate form. A couple of people have described subspecies of some taxa when they both occur in nearly the same area. I think this is bad taxonomy.
I have at least 7 or 8 other new "Lamiini" from Sabah. It's not surprising to see undescribed species from there.
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Xaurus
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Posted - 09/12/2023 :  00:19:43  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes Dan you are right, now I found a true T. albolateralis in my coll., with the same different elyral pattern, and some differences in the hairiness (antennae, legs ...), otherwise almost all features are very similar, so its a quite nearby new species. Maybe someone can teach me about the tribe asignment to Lamiini.
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Gontran
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Posted - 09/12/2023 :  14:48:50  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
A good conclusion, thank you.

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