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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
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 Posted - 21/01/2019 : 23:50:54
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Not sure on this one...
Thanks
Data: Dong Tien, Vietnam. |
Edited by - Xavier on 13/05/2022 13:29:09 |
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Vitali
Member Rosalia
Estonia
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 08:53:22
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| Are you sure this one comes from Asia? |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 12:56:50
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| Yes. It is from a contact in North Vietnam. I did notice the similarity with the Eunidia group though. |
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Vitali
Member Rosalia
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 13:30:23
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| I asked mainly because of the similarity with this one. |
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Bennyboymothman
Member Rosenbergia
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 15:38:44
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| Both the scape and bottom of pronotum are different though? |
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Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosenbergia
France
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Posted - 22/01/2019 : 19:40:00
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Good evening
Is there a cicatrice on the scape or not ?
Strangely enough, I have the impression that the scape is shrinking? Like some Dorcaschematini and also Ancylonotini?
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dryobius
Member Rosenbergia
USA
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Posted - 26/01/2019 : 12:49:15
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| If this is truly from Vietnam, you might want to look over some Saperdini species. |
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Francesco
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Posted - 26/01/2019 : 15:00:31
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| Actually, it reminds the genus Cervoglenea... |
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Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosenbergia
France
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Posted - 26/01/2019 : 15:10:52
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| Oui peut être cependant le scape m'intrigue ?? Il me semble (?) fortement râpeux latéralement ? Je ne connais pas le genre Cervoglenea Mais le scape est il râpeux ? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 26/01/2019 : 17:31:36
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Originally posted by Jérôme Sudre
Oui peut être cependant le scape m'intrigue ?? Il me semble (?) fortement râpeux latéralement ? Je ne connais pas le genre Cervoglenea Mais le scape est il râpeux ?
Ok avec toi, je pense que c'est plutôt un Dorcaschematini, sans doute du genre Microlenecamptus (et dans ce cas, c'est une nouvelle espèce), ou proche (mais quel genre, alors ?) :
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Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosenbergia
France
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Posted - 27/01/2019 : 09:11:00
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Bonjour Xavier
J'ai des doutes avec l'appartenance au genre Microlenecamptus ? Cela me semble un autre genre mais quoi effectivemment ??
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Xavier
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Posted - 27/01/2019 : 09:50:51
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I have also some doubts. There are 6 known species of Microlenecamptus (I am not certain of ID of all pictures here) :
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They have all longer elytron, rounded or spined, but not truncated....
A new genus ?? |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 27/01/2019 : 10:22:58
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I see another possibility : a species close to Entelopes or Parentelopes (Saperdini !), genus with also the rough scape...(and Francesco was right ! ). As said by Vitali, the similarity with several species of African Tragocephalini is also very strong! Anyway, I don't know. |
Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2019 10:54:32 |
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Jérôme Sudre
Member Rosenbergia
France
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Posted - 27/01/2019 : 11:44:19
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En effet il y a un rapprochement avec Entelopes qui présente un scape avec un côté externe râpeux mais avec le peu de connaissances que j'ai de ces genres je ne pense pas que ce soit Entelopes ? Quant à Parentelopes je ne connais pas ce genre mais d'après le peu que j'ai vu (photo ou description) pourquoi pas en effet ?? Mais les Parentelopes ont ils des antennes aussi longues ? Les Dorcschematini oui. Malgré tout c'est vrai que ce specimen à plus la "configuration" d'un Sapardini ?
Bref je ne sais que penser ?
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Xavier
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Posted - 27/01/2019 : 12:05:50
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Le genre Parentelopes Breuning, 1954 est actuellement constitué de deux espèces.
Pour la longueur des antennes, l'holotype de P. kalimantanus est une femelle. |
Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2019 12:09:08 |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 27/01/2019 : 12:12:52
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Un nouveau montage pour comparer... |
Edited by - Xavier on 27/01/2019 12:19:56 |
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Vietnam : Nanocamptus doungtieni Vives, 2022
