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nalslan
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Posted - 16/09/2023 :  05:16:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote


16 mm. from Ziyun, a southern county of Guizhou. China: Coptops sp 1
I could not find a fit.
Any idea? Thanks.

Edited by - Xavier on 17/09/2023 11:11:58

Xavier
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Posted - 16/09/2023 :  10:29:08  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
It is not a Coptops sp.; It looks like a Leptomesosa sp.
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nalslan
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Posted - 17/09/2023 :  04:24:10  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you, Xavier. I am not sure... from the lateral view below, I think the compound eyes are divided, not "deeply emarginate, but not devided" as the key in Gressitt (1951) for Leptomesosa.


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Xavier
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Posted - 17/09/2023 :  09:52:57  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, the shape of the scape and the subdivided eye do not correspond to the genus Leptomesosa.

This species is the same, no ? I add pictures to compare :

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The grey specimen is undoubtedly a male, with a more developed tooth at the front of the pronotum than the female. So you're probably right about the Coptops genus.

Edited by - Xavier on 17/09/2023 10:30:37
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Posted - 17/09/2023 :  10:58:21  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
I think it is Coptops szechuanicus Gressitt, 1951 described from Sichuan, which has 2 dark zigzag bands on elytra, but check the description:


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nalslan
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Posted - 18/09/2023 :  09:31:29  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Thank you Xavier, I'll check C. szechuanicus.

And I think they are not the same species. Attatched 3 figs here. Fig 1 and fig 2 are the male of the one with disersed red hairs and its head. Fig 3 is the head of the gray specimen.

The sizes of their lower lobe of eyes and ratios to gena are different.

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Xavier
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Posted - 18/09/2023 :  12:57:44  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Depending on the species, the length of the eyes and cheeks may differ between the sexes of cerambycidae.

I remain convinced that your specimens are from the same species, despite the difference in colour: same black spots on legs, on elytra, etc:


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Edited by - Xavier on 18/09/2023 13:36:22
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nalslan
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Posted - 18/09/2023 :  14:48:49  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
These two specimens of your post are a pair (the left two in my image). They have same ratio of lower eye lobe to gena.
The third one could be another species, or just a lighter colore male of the same species.

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Depending on the species, the length of the eyes and cheeks may differ between the sexes of cerambycidae.

I remain convinced that your specimens are from the same species, despite the difference in colour: same black spots on legs, on elytra, etc:


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Xavier
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Posted - 19/09/2023 :  18:36:15  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Yes, the third one is the same species !
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