Cerambycoidea Forum
Cerambycoidea Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Members | Search | FAQ
 All Forums
 Cerambycidae Cerambycinae
 Cerambycini
 Dialeges pauper vs pauperoides

Note: You must be registered in order to post a reply.
To register, click here. Registration is FREE!

Screensize:
UserName:
Password:
Format Mode:
Format: BoldItalicizedUnderlineStrikethrough Align LeftCenteredAlign Right Horizontal Rule Insert HyperlinkInsert EmailInsert Image Insert CodeInsert QuoteInsert List
   
Message:

* HTML is OFF
* Forum Code is ON
Smilies
Smile [:)] Big Smile [:D] Cool [8D] Blush [:I]
Tongue [:P] Evil [):] Wink [;)] Clown [:o)]
Black Eye [B)] Eight Ball [8] Frown [:(] Shy [8)]
Shocked [:0] Angry [:(!] Dead [xx(] Sleepy [|)]
Kisses [:X] Approve [^] Disapprove [V] Question [?]

   Insert an Image File

   

T O P I C    R E V I E W
Xavier Posted - 18/03/2017 : 09:28:48
Dialeges pauper Pascoe, 1857 has been described from "Borneo" & "Malacca"

Dialeges pauperoides Holzschuh, 1984 has been described from "Malaysia, Kg. Sahom ; Taiping ; Cameron Highlands"

Both species have the same range, which is not helpful.

In this post, Francesco tell us, by reading Holzschuh description, that the differences between the 2 species are really unclear.

- For some people, it is a matter of body size, but ...
- For some people, it is a matter of hairs on antennomera, but...
- For some people, it is a matter of pronotum sculpture, but...

Who is able to confirm or affirm something for all subsequent post ?

http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3671
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=23968
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=22254
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21670
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21265
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18528
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18527
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18530
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18524
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14780
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12885
http://www.cerambycoidea.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=476

Who is able to prove that 2 species exist, rather than one ?
7   L A T E S T    R E P L I E S    (Newest First)
Francesco Posted - 04/07/2017 : 07:40:03
Small update: I have just received a female of D. pauperoides (antennae as long as body, large postmedian black spot) from Sabah measuring 23 mm.

Thus, the updated sizes are:
  • pauperoides
    Body size: 23-44
  • pauper
    Body size: 14-37
Xavier Posted - 18/03/2017 : 18:37:38
Thanks a lot all guys for your comments
Beckey Posted - 18/03/2017 : 14:59:29

70.7 KB

3rd antennomere of male specimens from Peninsular Malaysia.
dryobius Posted - 18/03/2017 : 13:59:28
I forgot to say that all of these are from Sabah.

dryobius Posted - 18/03/2017 : 13:58:11
D. pauperoides male

439.17 KB

D. pauper male

403.16 KB


S. scabricornis male

442.57 KB
Xavier Posted - 18/03/2017 : 13:07:16
Thank you ,
If it is ok for females (antennae shorter vs as long as), I do not see any strong difference in males for the shape of pronotun, neither for elytral pubescence.
Francesco Posted - 18/03/2017 : 11:56:55
In my opinion, this Beckey's photo is very helpful:



pauperoides (left) and pauper (right)
  • pauperoides shows more rounded pronotum and more uniform elytral pubescence.
    Females show antennae shorter than body
    Body size: 28-44
  • pauper shows more squared pronotum and elytral pubescence making two sharp "squares" linked by a longitudinal dark strip
    Females show antennae as long as body
    Body size: 14-37

Cerambycoidea Forum © 2000-08 Snitz Communications Go To Top Of Page
Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.07