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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
Germany
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 Posted - 15/12/2012 : 13:35:52
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Mesosini from N - Thailand, 19 mm. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 15/12/2012 : 13:59:26
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Just an idea: with such granulation on elytral base, it looks like Agelasta (Pseudagelasta) birmanica (Breuning, 1935);
Does it have erect hairs on body ? |
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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 15/12/2012 : 20:19:36
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Thank you, Xavier.
erect hairs only of the underside and by the legs, elytra with out distand hairs. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 15/12/2012 : 20:47:35
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Well, Gressitt (1970) wrote that this species has got erect hairs on the body.
Could you make a profil picture ? |
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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 13:07:21
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Yes......the underside is completly clutered with erect long white hairs.
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 15:37:08
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Please, look at those specimens of this post here.
I don't know why but I wonder if all belong to the same taxon  |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 15:57:25
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1. Yours
2. north Thailande, Gérard
3. Northern Laos, mine
Your specimen is like this one, without big tooth ahead of pronotum (and it's not a sexual dimorphism comparing n°2 and 3).
Whitish drawing on elytra of your specimen is different from n°2 & 3.
The question is : which is Agelasta (Pseudagelasta) birmanica (Breuning, 1935) ? |
Edited by - Xavier on 27/12/2014 15:58:09 |
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Andre
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 15:58:07
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| Very similar, but not the same. Pronotum and basis of elytra are different... |
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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 16:09:18
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| Hmm......the Type is in London. Might be Xaurus have a picture ? |
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Xavier
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 16:11:59
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I agree with you.
Could you, please, check the original description of Paragelasta birmanica Breuning, 1935 = Agelasta (Pseudagelasta) birmanica (Breuning, 1935) and tell us which specimen is the true "birmanica" ? (I can't understand German language)
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Andre
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 16:58:24
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Hmmm.....difficult, the description agrees more or less with our Spec. and Breuning did not mention the two ridges of the elytra of my Spec. so i think your second Spec. is A. birmanica.
But the best is the picture of the type. I think Xaurus can help. |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
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Posted - 27/12/2014 : 17:17:43
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The black & white illustration from Laos Fauna (linked post) shows a specimen without ridge on elytra and with toothed pronotum like Gérard's and my specimens. Type specimen is needed, sure.
But now, we have to find your species .... |
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Xaurus
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Posted - 28/12/2014 : 02:16:33
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Yes, I believe I have a type picture of Paragelasta birmanica, but I didn't make by myself and looking first where it is ? I'll check next days.
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Xaurus
Member Rosenbergia
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Posted - 28/12/2014 : 23:56:34
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| Now I have post the HT in the type section, any ideas of the spms above are welcome ! |
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Xavier
Scientific Collaborator
France
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Posted - 29/12/2014 : 08:47:15
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Thanks for the picture  .
For Andre's specimen, I really don't know. |
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Francesco
Forum Admin
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Posted - 25/01/2015 : 10:25:34
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I think that Andre's specimen belongs to the genus Mesosa sg. Perimesosa.
What do you think about irrorata Gressitt?
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Thailand: Mesosa (Perimesosa) irrorata?
