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 Vietnam : Mesosa (Aplocnemia) latifasciata ?
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 17/11/2020 :  15:05:19  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote

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I've seen it before, but cannot locate it..

Something birmanica?

Data: 06-2018 - Sa Pa - Lao Cai - Vietnam

Thanks

Edited by - Xavier on 17/11/2020 20:03:30

Xavier
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Posted - 17/11/2020 :  20:03:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Mesosa (Aplocnemia) latifasciata White, 1858 may be.
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 09/01/2021 :  22:29:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks, i'm not sure that fits though.
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 09/01/2021 :  22:30:52  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe Mesosa guttigera Holzschuh 2017?
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Xavier
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Posted - 10/01/2021 :  09:46:12  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
Breuning (1938) separates the two subgenres (in a simplified way):
- elytra covered with erect hairs -> Mesosa(Perimesosa)
- elytra without erect hairs -> Mesosa(Aplocnemia)

So, Mesosa (Perimesosa) guttigera Holzschuh, 2018 should have erect hairs.

I have a female from Vietnam (similar to your specimen) without erect hairs.

Edited by - Xavier on 10/01/2021 09:53:14
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 07/02/2021 :  21:01:34  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
No erect hairs, I checked today. So possibly a new species?
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 06/12/2022 :  23:16:02  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
This has since been identified as a Male Agelasta hirsuta, Breuning 1939.
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Xavier
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Posted - 07/12/2022 :  07:46:16  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
With no erect hairs, could it be Agelasta (Pseudagelasta) hirsuta Breuning, 1939 ?

Who determined this species? Do you have the publication related ? ( Breuning, 1939).

Edited by - Xavier on 07/12/2022 07:48:56
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Bennyboymothman
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Posted - 08/12/2022 :  20:45:18  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I don't, could you send me the publication please? my email is in my profile. I identified it on the basis that it has no erect hairs.
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Xavier
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Posted - 08/12/2022 :  21:53:41  Show Profile  Email Poster  Reply with Quote
hirsuta means "hairy" ! I haven't this publication. How did you decide of this id without the description ? I do not understand.
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Posted - 11/12/2022 :  20:49:33  Show Profile  Email Poster  Visit Bennyboymothman's Homepage  Send Bennyboymothman a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
With no erect hairs, could it be Agelasta (Pseudagelasta) hirsuta Breuning, 1939 ? It has no erect hairs...
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